On 6 Nov 2015 08:11:52 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

>SRB's were not meant for general application code.  Also, I hope nobody builds 
>a quick and dirty SRB routine.  Those should be carefully constructed and 
>tested.
>If by quick and dirty you mean short lived, then yes, that was their original 
>use case.  Some SRB routines today are much more robust and can do significant 
>work, but that is what the z/IIP engines are for.

What is the work done on a Ziip engine?  As I understand other
postings (possibly incorrectly) the work runs under an enclave SRB.
Java and XML parsing to my mind are application code.  I can't speak
as to what type of code DF/Sort and Syncsort are running on Ziip and
Zaap.

Clark Morris 
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>Subject: Re: SRB And Enclave SRB
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>On 5 Nov 2015 16:07:26 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
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>>KEY 0 is not required by an SRB.  See IEAMSCHD documentation.
>>Supervisor state is required.
>
>For application code, isn't this an integrity exposure?
>
>Clark Morris
>>
>>On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 3:48 PM, michelbutz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I would think what flavor SRB is always key 0 Supervisor state
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On Nov 5, 2015, at 6:45 PM, Clark Morris
>>> > <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> On 5 Nov 2015 08:27:39 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks so much SRBs have apparently become more than quick and
>>> >> dirty
>>> type of work
>>> >> And do extensive processing in some instances
>>> >
>>> > I skimmed the paper and could not figure out what key and state
>>> > (supervisor or non-supervisor) they operate in.
>>> >
>>> > Clark Morris
>>> >>
>>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>>> >>
>>> >>> On Nov 4, 2015, at 6:09 PM, Dave Barry <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> See John Arwe's seminal work on the subject described at
>>> ftp://public.dhe.ibm.com/s390/zos/wlm/WLMpresrb.pdf.
>>> >>>
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>>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 1:39 PM
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>>> >>> Subject: SRB And Enclave SRB
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Can someone on the list point me to where I might find the
>>> >>> differences
>>> between the above two
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks
>>> >>>
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