The name 'DB2' seems to have followed the 1980s tradition of what I call
'name bloat', the practice of inflating a moniker in one way or another to
make a product look more mature or more elegant. The paragon in my mind was
dBASE II from Ashton-Tate. There never was a plain old dBASE. The roman
numeral was added from the get-go to make the product seem new and improved.
Moreover, there was never an 'Ashton'. That name was invented because, gosh
darn it, it sounded good hyphenated with Tate, a real person. 

Before DB2 there was precedent for name bloat within IBM. There never was a
plain old 'JES'. The product emerged from the cocoon as JES2. There had been
a predecessor product called 'HASP', which may or may not have been an
acronym for Houston Automatic Spooling Priority, but the name 'J-E-S' was
born complete with suffix. 

Meanwhile there did emerge a 'JES3', but it was not an evolutionary
descendant of JES2. Both products have coexisted, albeit uneasily, for
decades. We used to imagine a JES5 or JES6 (depending on one's arithmetic
proclivity) that would somehow combine the best features of both products,
but it's almost certainly DOA. Likewise, the prospects for a 'DB3' are as
dim as a distant star.

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J.O.Skip Robinson
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> On Behalf Of Anne & Lynn Wheeler
> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 10:53 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Bulk] Re: Compile error
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> [email protected] (Savor, Thomas  , Alpharetta) writes:
> > Management System or DBMS in 1983 when IBM >released DB2 on its MVS
> > mainframe platform." -- Wikipedia, citing an IBM manual as authority.
> >
> > All these years, I've have only known of DB2.  The name seems to have
stuck.
> >
> > Was there ever a DB1 ??
> > Will there ever be a DB3 ??
> 
> The original sql/relational implementation was at SJR (bldg. 28 on main
plant
> site, using modified vm/370 on 370/145), System/R. History/Reunion:
> http://www.mcjones.org/System_R/
> wiki
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_System_R
> and another history
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/20/ibm_system_r_making_relational_
> really_real/
> and
> http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~rap/teaching/504/2010/readings/history-of-system-
> r.pdf
> 
> The official new DBMS project was EAGLE .... with the corporation focused
on
> EAGLE it was possible to get System/R out the door as SQL/DS (under the
> radar).
> 
> When EAGLE imploded, there was a request about how fast would it take to
> port System/R to MVS ... eventually released as DB2 (originally for
analytical &
> decision support *only*).
> 
> past posts mentioning System/R
> http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#systemr
> also referenced here
> http://www.mcjones.org/System_R/citations.html
> 
> The Birth of SQL
> http://www.mcjones.org/System_R/SQL_Reunion_95/sqlr95-The.html
> 
> Some discussion of EAGLE and then DB2
> http://www.mcjones.org/System_R/SQL_Reunion_95/sqlr95-DB2.html
> 
> I periodically reference this post about Jan1992 meeting in Ellison's
conference
> room
> http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13
> 
> one of the people in the meeting would tell how he was responsible for the
> majority of the tech transfer into the Santa Teresa Lab (now silicon
valley lab)
> for DB2.
> 
> Jim Gray departs for Tandem palming off some number of things on me ...
old
> email ref:
> http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007.html#email801016
> 
> Eventually IBM Toronto starts RDBMS for IBM/PC ... implemented in C ..
> which is made available on other platforms and is also called DB2 ... even
> though it is totally different code base from the mainframe
implementation.
> 
> SQL/DS is also eventually renamed DB2
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_SQL/DS
> 
> --
> virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

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