Just to be the awkward one here: the use of 's for plural is grammatically incorrect, personally I don't care if it is universally accepted - it is wrong and should be avoided. It is on a par with the misuse of examples such as 'their' when meaning 'there' and 'here, here' when 'hear, hear' is meant. I know language evolves, but grammar does not.
We need Mr Gilmore here! -----Original Message----- From: Joel C. Ewing <[email protected]> To: IBM-MAIN <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 2:33 Subject: Re: Introducing the New z13s: Tim's Hardware Highlights The recognized punctuation rules are no longer black and white where z13 and z13s are involved. The rule of always using an apostrophe for plurals of "non-words" is no longer universal: One rule is apostrophe "s" is used for plural for "words" that are not normally a noun; but z13 in our context is normally a noun, so by that standard the plural could be just z13s. When multi-digit numbers are made into a plural, it is now acceptable to use just "s" for plural, as in both 1990's and 1990s being in common use for multiple years in that decade -- again by that standard, z13s could be a plural of z13. And of course, if you want a possessive form, like "the z13's frame", then the apostrophe is required, which is very confusing if you also demand the apostrophe for a plural. All in all, "z13s" as a distinct machine type introduces ambiguity that could easily have been avoided. It was not an astute choice. Joel C. Ewing On 02/18/2016 07:57 PM, Ken Smith wrote: > Maybe right: > > z13 is a single z13 > z13's is more than one z13 > z13s is a single z13s > z13s' is more than one z13s > z13* or z13x is one or more z13*'s or z13x's > > where x or * is any char including null > > Ken > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 7:50 PM, Ed Gould <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Feb 18, 2016, at 3:30 AM, Timothy Sipples wrote: >> -------------SNIP--------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> 4. IBM has greatly relaxed the data center environmental requirements for >>> this model, expanding the temperature and humidity envelopes. It's much >>> more realistic now to install the z13s in nontraditional data centers, or >>> even places that aren't really data centers. Platforms that move, for >>> example, or out in remote facilities. (In technobabble it's an ASHRAE >>> class >>> A3 system now instead of class A2.) >>> >> >> ----------------SNIP--------------------------- >> Timothy, >> >> Thanks for the update >> -------------WAR STORY TIME-------------------------------------------- >> I worked at one place that used a ware house type environment to do DR. >> That is they bought a new machine in their DC and disassembled the old >> machine and put it in the ware house. >> Some how they expected the old machine could do DR. Periodically they >> would send a sysprog off to the DR site to power up and run a few job. >> The sysprog was fairly good he could use a screwdriver like no other >> sysprog and could basically get the machine up and limping to do those few >> jobs. >> That is until they bought a new machine that couldn't IPL the latest and >> greatest MVS. Also DB2 wouldn't even work. >> They ordered the new machine with their heads in the clouds as they were >> so cheap they didn't even want to pay for the latest COBOL. >> They screamed and moaned about having to put out a few dollars a month for >> COBOL and LE. >> When reminded that the old COBOL was Y2K compliant that pretty well shut >> them up. >> I was never so happy to leave place everything that cost $$ was met with a >> NO. >> They were also unhappy that their homegrown security system would not work >> anymore and they had to go to RACF. >> IDIOTS they got what they deserved. >> >> Ed >> >> ... -- Joel C. Ewing, Bentonville, AR [email protected] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
