Airlines are no longer 'heavily regulated'. They used to be. Telecom was deregulated. Banks were deregulated. There was more competition in all these industries when regulation was in place. The 'natural tendency' of any industry is to consolidate to maximize profits and to dodge regulatory intervention. That's why Delta is so big and independent. And so unaccountable.
So it's cheaper to fly than ever before. Whoopee. This is what we get for lower fares. . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-302-7535 Office [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kirk Wolf Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 10:45 AM To: [email protected] Subject: (External):Re: Delta Outage Regardless of the technology choice, it would be nice if there were enough competition in the US airline industry such that you could choose an airline with a hot DR plan that they regularly exercise. IMO this is evidence that the heavy regulatory environment is of little actual value. Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Jesse 1 Robinson <[email protected]> wrote: > The most telling detail I've seen is that the Delta 'system', whatever > that entails, encompasses 500 servers! Of those, 400 came up early-ish > on, but 100 others proved obstreperous. OK, folks here have > cited--even boasted about--nearly transparent DR failover. Really? Can > anyone on this list actually perform a complete DR with 500 servers to > another location in less time than it would (presumably) take to get > all 500 back up in their native location? We're not talking here about > a well-configured mainframe. This is a massive number of weenie-ware > gizmos that all have to talk to each other in perfect harmony. Somewhere else. > > If so, you are gods. I stand ready to be awed. > > . > . > . > J.O.Skip Robinson > Southern California Edison Company > Electric Dragon Team Paddler > SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager > 323-715-0595 Mobile > 626-302-7535 Office > [email protected] > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM > Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 11:49 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: (External):Re: Delta Outage > > Dutch television had the info that passengers were in trouble because > their data was lost in the disaster. If true, this is of course > totally unacceptable for such a company, whatever the disaster. > > Kees. > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Gerhard Adam > Sent: 09 August, 2016 18:06 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Delta Outage > > Apparently there are 500 servers involved. I have my own speculations > as to why they didn't declare a disaster. > > As a result, the outage was extended because it appears to be taking > them in excess of 12 hours to reboot everything. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Steve Beaver > Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 8:41 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Delta Outage > > Then WHY did they not initiate their DR and move all systems to the > HOT Site. I just finished putting in a System that has a RTO=RPO=0 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Gerhard Adam > Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 10:17 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Delta Outage > > From what I understand, it isn't a simple power outage, but rather a > fire in the data center. > > http://arstechnica.com/business/2016/08/data-center- > disaster-disrupts-delta- > airlines/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Steve Beaver > Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 8:10 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Delta Outage > > I live in Texas and we have ERCOT, and Texas produces more wind energy > than > 3 countries. And Texas has NO Interconnects To other grids. > > It its reprehensible that Delta does not have enough battery power and > gen-sets to cover the screw-ups by Atlanta Power. AA is in Irving and > unless there is a major storm in that area does not lose ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
