Regardless of the technology choice, it would be nice if there were enough
competition in the US airline industry such that you could choose an
airline with a hot DR plan that they regularly exercise.

IMO this is evidence that the heavy regulatory environment is of little
actual value.

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Jesse 1 Robinson <[email protected]>
wrote:

> The most telling detail I've seen is that the Delta 'system', whatever
> that entails, encompasses 500 servers! Of those, 400 came up early-ish on,
> but 100 others proved obstreperous. OK, folks here have cited--even boasted
> about--nearly transparent DR failover. Really? Can anyone on this list
> actually perform a complete DR with 500 servers to another location in less
> time than it would (presumably) take to get all 500 back up in their native
> location? We're not talking here about a well-configured mainframe. This is
> a massive number of weenie-ware gizmos that all have to talk to each other
> in perfect harmony. Somewhere else.
>
> If so, you are gods. I stand ready to be awed.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 11:49 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: (External):Re: Delta Outage
>
> Dutch television had the info that passengers were in trouble because
> their data was lost in the disaster. If true, this is of course totally
> unacceptable for such a company, whatever the disaster.
>
> Kees.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Gerhard Adam
> Sent: 09 August, 2016 18:06
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Delta Outage
>
> Apparently there are 500 servers involved.  I have my own speculations as
> to why they didn't declare a disaster.
>
> As a result, the outage was extended because it appears to be taking them
> in excess of 12 hours to reboot everything.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Steve Beaver
> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 8:41 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Delta Outage
>
> Then WHY did they not initiate their DR and move all systems to the HOT
> Site.  I just finished putting in a System that has a RTO=RPO=0
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Gerhard Adam
> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 10:17 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Delta Outage
>
> From what I understand, it isn't a simple power outage, but rather a fire
> in the data center.
>
> http://arstechnica.com/business/2016/08/data-center-
> disaster-disrupts-delta-
> airlines/
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Steve Beaver
> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 8:10 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Delta Outage
>
> I live in Texas and we have ERCOT, and Texas produces more wind energy than
> 3 countries.  And Texas has NO Interconnects To other grids.
>
> It its reprehensible that Delta does not have enough battery power and
> gen-sets to cover the screw-ups by Atlanta Power. AA is in  Irving and
> unless there is a major storm in that area does not lose
>
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