Wow, I wonder how surprised all of the sites we support remotely would be to 
find out that they are not running a "true production environment"?  :)

Brian 

On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 22:38:34 -0500, Edward Gould <[email protected]> 
wrote:

>> On Sep 28, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Jerry Whitteridge 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Let me expand on that previous comment.
>> 
>> If your Datacenter was/is designed for attended operations then console 
>> access is often restricted to physical access and so remote support becomes 
>> an issue. The conversion to unattended/lights out operations requires a 
>> rethink about console design, deployment and access from the traditional 
>> models. Both my Datacenters are designed for remote support (either can be 
>> run from either Datacenter OR by remote access). This was a part of the DR 
>> considerations as well as staffing choices. It did mean redesigning the 
>> console support but now we have access to any console from any authorized 
>> remote location without a physical presense.
>> 
>> Jerry Whitteridge
>> Manager Mainframe Systems & Storage
>> Albertsons - Safeway Inc.
>> 925 738 9443
>> Corporate Tieline - 89443
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>Jerry:
>
>I will agree with your clarification with some minor cavets. That is all well 
>and good for a “new” DC. The rest of us mortals do not have the luxury of 
>having such a set up. 
>Personally I have not had much need for the HMC. It is clunky and far to easy 
>to bring down the entire sysplex, especially if you don’t use it everyday. in 
>fact I dread the time I have to “use” it as I am sure without thinking I will 
>crash the systems. Having seen (not by my hand) the entire plex being lost 
>just by hands of the in-experianced is not for the feint of heart.
>
>I know of one “system” that is run via remote by about 1000 miles. There is so 
>much non trust between the sites and the political cr** that ends up in finger 
>pointing I am glad I have nothing to do with the mess.
>
>I suppose its fine if the site/remote gets along but with the charged finger 
>pointing that goes on I don’t see it realistically well implemented especially 
>in a real environment where finger checks cause the stock market not to open. 
>Perhaps in a college environment it would work but not in a true production 
>environment.
>
>Ed
>
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