>>> On 10/3/2016 at 03:21 PM, John McKown <[email protected]> wrote: 
> Apparently it is possible (have never done) to IPL an LPAR from the DVD on
> the HMC.

I have, but until recently it wasn't possible for the DVD to be accessible by 
Linux.

> Of course, the problem with this, at least in a remote situation,
> is that somebody needs to insert the correct DVD into the HMC's DVD drive.

Yes, it's a bit of a pain.  As always, it pays to have friends in certain 
places.

> The current HMCs, as I understand it, run Linux as the OS.

That has been true for a very long time.  So much so that Connor was surprised 
to find out that his z890 SE was running OS2.

> I have often
> booted virtual machines on a hypervisor on Linux/Intel. Wouldn't it be neat
> if you could write an ISO image of a DVD into a directory on the HMC so
> that you could then IPL from it. Even better would be if said writing to
> the ISO image were controlled from the HMC so that the image is placed into
> a specific directory, perhaps with a description, and that you could IPL
> the LPAR by selecting the ISO image from a list of ISO images with their
> description.

This has been a requirement of mine for quite a while now, but only recently 
became feasible with Linux being able to access the DVD.

> If you want really weird, how about the ability to direct the
> HMC to download an ISO image (and validate it) from an IBM site such as
> ShopzSeries so you wouldn't need a DVD at all.

My preference would be that I have the ability to upload multiple ISO images 
from a remote location, with appropriate access controls as to source, etc.  If 
download from the HMC was also added, I wouldn't mind.  Getting your network 
security team to allow outbound http[s] connections from the HMC might be a bit 
problematic, shall we say.

> IIRC, you can install z/VM via DVD (no tapes)

That is correct.  If you know the right incantation, you can also have z/VM's 
FTP server make the contents of the DVD reader available to the network as well.

> so wouldn't be nice to have the HMC be able to download
> an ISO image which you could then IPL to install z/VM.  I am also under the
> impression that, for a fee, you can also get a z/OS DVD image in order to
> install z/OS. I don't know if you can do this for Linux or not. I also
> don't know about z/VSE and z/TPF.

Beginning with SLES12 SP2 (coming soon to a CDN server near you) we will 
support installation from the DVD reader in the HMC.  As things stand now, that 
means a real DVD in the reader, of course.  Speed, however, is a drawback.  The 
bandwidth between the DVD reader and the LPAR is (an) order(s) of magnitude 
slower than a network-based installation server.  I don't know if that changed 
with either the z13 or z13s.  If not, I'm hoping that multiple IBM customers 
sign on to a requirement to improve it.


Mark Post

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