Joe Are you using zPDT on Linux? Is that why you have not posted the messages? Or why you have not opened a case with IBM for assistance?
That could change the discussion Lizette > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Joseph Reichman > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 8:12 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Spool file > > Thanks > > > On Mar 23, 2017, at 11:05 AM, Lizette Koehler <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Generally - > > > > You can walk the CKPT anytime with $TCKPTDEF,RECONFIG=YES > > > > It is long, but fairly safe. You can cancel the process at any time, > > and JES2 will not impact much until you end it or allow it to proceed > > with the reconfiguration. > > > > You only need to cold start jes2 if you want to change the name of the > > SPOOL Volume. Otherwise you can init other volumes with the mask > > selected and allow volumes to drain, and once drained, remove from the > system. > > > > One of the suggestions in best practice for JES2 CKPT is to have CKPT1 > > in CF Structure and CKPT2 on DASD. > > > > > > > > > > Lizette > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] > >> On Behalf Of Joseph Reichman > >> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:36 AM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: Spool file > >> > >> Sorry just got up that was it > >> > >> > >> But I ran I to done other problems > >> > >> Can I move the checkpoint file to another pack As well > >> > >> Do t know why IBM set it up that way > >> Putting the spool and check point file on the same pack as the > >> parmlib's > >> > >> > >>> On Mar 23, 2017, at 2:41 AM, Anthony Thompson > >>> <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Of course, you know that implementing a change to the SPOOLDEF > >>> VOLUME > >> parameter requires a cold start of JES2? And, unless you're not > >> interested in keeping any of the old spool data, a spool offload/reload. > >>> > >>> Ant. > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On > >> Behalf Of Joseph Reichman > >>> Sent: Thursday, 23 March 2017 8:53 AM > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Subject: Re: Spool file > >>> > >>> My parmlib member points to SPOOL as the volume but everything else > >>> shows > >> B2SYS. > >>> > >>> SDSF SPOOL DISPLAY S0W1 2% ACT 14095 FRE 13683 LINE 1-2 (2) > >>> > >>> COMMAND INPUT ===> SCROLL ===> > >>> CSR > >>> NP NAME Status TGPct TGNum TGUse Command SAff Ext LoCyl LoTrk > >>> > >>> B2SYS1 ACTIVE 5 3000 164 ANY 00 0000031B > >>> 000000000000 > >>> B2SYS2 ACTIVE 2 11095 248 ANY 01 00000006 > >>> 000000000000 > >>> > >>> 3.4 Display > >>> DSLIST - Data Sets on volume SPOOL* Row 1 > of > >>> 6 > >>> Command ===> Scroll ===> > >>> PAGE > >>> > >>> > >>> Command - Enter "/" to select action Message > >>> Volume > >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> -------- > >>> --- > >>> SYS1.HASPACE > >>> SPOOL1 > >>> SYS1.HASPACE > >>> SPOOL2 > >>> SYS1.HASPACE > >>> SPOOL3 > >>> SYS1.VTOCIX.SPOOL1 > >>> SPOOL1 > >>> SYS1.VTOCIX.SPOOL2 > >>> SPOOL2 > >>> SYS1.VTOCIX.SPOOL3 > >>> SPOOL3 > >>> ***************************** End of Data Set list > >>> **************************** > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> $dspool,long > >>> $HASP893 VOLUME(B2SYS1) > >>> VOLUME(B2SYS1) STATUS=ACTIVE,DSNAME=SYS1.HASPACE, > >>> SYSAFF=(ANY),TGNUM=3000,TGINUSE=164, > >>> TRKPERTGB=3,PERCENT=5,RESERVED=NO, > >>> MAPTARGET=NO > >>> $HASP893 VOLUME(B2SYS2) > >>> VOLUME(B2SYS2) STATUS=ACTIVE,DSNAME=SYS1DisplKCELL=3,VOLUME=B2SYS > >>> > >>> $DSPOLLDEF > >>> > >>> JES parmlib member > >>> > >>> SPOOLDEF BUFSIZE=3856, /* MAXIMUM BUFFER SIZE &BUFSIZE c*/ > >>> DSNAME=SYS1.HASPACE, > >>> FENCE=NO, /* Don't Force to Min.Vol. &FENCE oc*/ > >>> SPOOLNUM=32, /* Max. Num. Spool Vols --- c* > >>> TGBPERVL=5, /* Track Groups per volume in BLOB ownc* > >>> TGSIZE=33, /* 30 BUFFERS/TRACK GROUP &TGSIZE wnc*/ > >>> TGSPACE=(MAX=26288, /* Fits TGMs into 4K Page &NUMTG=(, c*/ > >>> WARN=80), /* &NUMTG=(,% onc*/ > >>> TRKCELL=3, /* 3 Buffers/Track-cell &TCELSIZ c*/ > >>> VOLUME=SPOOL /* SPOOL VOLUME SERIAL &SPOOL c*/ > >>> <------- > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On > >> Behalf Of Lizette Koehler > >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:23 AM > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Subject: Re: Spool file > >>> > >>> Only one HASPACE per JES2 Spool volume > >>> > >>> Lizette > >>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:55 PM > >>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >>>> Subject: Re: Spool file > >>>> > >>>> Issue a $DSPOOL,LONG and see what it shows > >>>> > >>>> Issue $DSPOOLDEF and see what it shows > >>>> > >>>> Next go to ISPF 3.4 > >>>> > >>>> Search > >>>> > >>>> ** in the dataset level > >>>> SPOOL* in the VOLSER and see what it shows > >>>> > >>>> I am not clear about your statement: The spool volumes are still on the > >>> same > >>>> pack. Please provide a display of what you are seeing. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Lizette > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joseph Reichman > >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:48 PM > >>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >>>>> Subject: Re: Spool file > >>>>> > >>>>> I have 3 vols SPOOL1 SPOOL2 and SPOOL3 > >>>>> > >>>>> In jes2 parmlib member on the spool def for volume I specify SPOOL > >>>>> and yet after ipl'ing > >>>>> > >>>>> And then going back to SDSF to look for the spool volumes are on > >>>>> still on the same pack > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Mar 21, 2017, at 11:20 AM, Lizette Koehler > >>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The best practice for JES2 Spool file is standalone. Never put > >>>>>> anything on the same volume as either the SPOOL Space or the CKPT > >>>> datasets. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> That can lead to unintentional issues. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Many shops in the past have tended towards multi-use volumes with > >>>>>> JES2. This is not recommended. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> With storage arrays, you can code a volume as a MOD9 (9GB, 10,017 > >>>>>> Cylinders) and only place the ckpt or the spool space (not both) > >>>>>> on it. The array will typically only hold the amount of storage > >>>>>> on the > >>>>>> mod9 as is allocated. It does not hold the entire 10,017 > >>>>>> cylinders when you only have a 60 cylinder dataset on it. As the > >>>>>> volume is grown - the array will allocate more space to that > >>>>>> device until it reaches > >>>>> its maximum size. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> So, in my shop we have the ckpt on MOD3s and the Spool space on > >>>>>> MOD54s. The MOD3s only use a small portion for the ckpt as the > >>>>>> ckpt is > >>>>> under 1000 cylinders. > >>>>>> The MOD54s are maxed out as I have allocated the entire amount to > >>>>>> the Spool space. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> So even though there could be 3339 cylinders allocated for the > >>>>>> MOD3, I am using barely 15% of that. So the volume is not very > >>>>>> large even though it > >>>>> could be. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Or your shop could elect to create MOD1s - which is any size you > >>>>>> wish to define > >>>>>> - for your ckpt and spool space to be considered stand alone. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> When you start to mix files on volumes that should be dedicated - > >>>>>> CA1 TMS, JES Spool or JES ckpt - you can enq that volume and > >>>>>> cause issues to > >>>>> those products. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Worst case scenario you might encounter is the need to cold start > >>> jes2. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Lizette > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > >>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joseph Reichman > >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 5:47 AM > >>>>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >>>>>>> Subject: Spool file > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hi > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I'm having problems with my spool file > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> SYS1.HASPACE > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> It happens to be in the same pack as my parmlib And other > >>>>>>> important files > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I'm wondering can the spool file be on any pack ? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
