That is correct I did have to do a cold start to get JES to use the spool file from my new packs
However the cold start none of the other jobs took off I am thinking of using 2 different iplparm members to get around the problem > On Mar 23, 2017, at 8:53 PM, Lizette Koehler <[email protected]> wrote: > > Joe > > Are you using zPDT on Linux? Is that why you have not posted the messages? > Or > why you have not opened a case with IBM for assistance? > > > > That could change the discussion > > Lizette > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Joseph Reichman >> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 8:12 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Spool file >> >> Thanks >> >>> On Mar 23, 2017, at 11:05 AM, Lizette Koehler <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> Generally - >>> >>> You can walk the CKPT anytime with $TCKPTDEF,RECONFIG=YES >>> >>> It is long, but fairly safe. You can cancel the process at any time, >>> and JES2 will not impact much until you end it or allow it to proceed >>> with the reconfiguration. >>> >>> You only need to cold start jes2 if you want to change the name of the >>> SPOOL Volume. Otherwise you can init other volumes with the mask >>> selected and allow volumes to drain, and once drained, remove from the >> system. >>> >>> One of the suggestions in best practice for JES2 CKPT is to have CKPT1 >>> in CF Structure and CKPT2 on DASD. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Lizette >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> On Behalf Of Joseph Reichman >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:36 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: Spool file >>>> >>>> Sorry just got up that was it >>>> >>>> >>>> But I ran I to done other problems >>>> >>>> Can I move the checkpoint file to another pack As well >>>> >>>> Do t know why IBM set it up that way >>>> Putting the spool and check point file on the same pack as the >>>> parmlib's >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Mar 23, 2017, at 2:41 AM, Anthony Thompson >>>>> <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Of course, you know that implementing a change to the SPOOLDEF >>>>> VOLUME >>>> parameter requires a cold start of JES2? And, unless you're not >>>> interested in keeping any of the old spool data, a spool offload/reload. >>>>> >>>>> Ant. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf Of Joseph Reichman >>>>> Sent: Thursday, 23 March 2017 8:53 AM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: Spool file >>>>> >>>>> My parmlib member points to SPOOL as the volume but everything else >>>>> shows >>>> B2SYS. >>>>> >>>>> SDSF SPOOL DISPLAY S0W1 2% ACT 14095 FRE 13683 LINE 1-2 (2) >>>>> >>>>> COMMAND INPUT ===> SCROLL ===> >>>>> CSR >>>>> NP NAME Status TGPct TGNum TGUse Command SAff Ext LoCyl LoTrk >>>>> >>>>> B2SYS1 ACTIVE 5 3000 164 ANY 00 0000031B >>>>> 000000000000 >>>>> B2SYS2 ACTIVE 2 11095 248 ANY 01 00000006 >>>>> 000000000000 >>>>> >>>>> 3.4 Display >>>>> DSLIST - Data Sets on volume SPOOL* Row 1 >> of >>>>> 6 >>>>> Command ===> Scroll ===> >>>>> PAGE >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Command - Enter "/" to select action Message >>>>> Volume >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> -------- >>>>> --- >>>>> SYS1.HASPACE >>>>> SPOOL1 >>>>> SYS1.HASPACE >>>>> SPOOL2 >>>>> SYS1.HASPACE >>>>> SPOOL3 >>>>> SYS1.VTOCIX.SPOOL1 >>>>> SPOOL1 >>>>> SYS1.VTOCIX.SPOOL2 >>>>> SPOOL2 >>>>> SYS1.VTOCIX.SPOOL3 >>>>> SPOOL3 >>>>> ***************************** End of Data Set list >>>>> **************************** >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> $dspool,long >>>>> $HASP893 VOLUME(B2SYS1) >>>>> VOLUME(B2SYS1) STATUS=ACTIVE,DSNAME=SYS1.HASPACE, >>>>> SYSAFF=(ANY),TGNUM=3000,TGINUSE=164, >>>>> TRKPERTGB=3,PERCENT=5,RESERVED=NO, >>>>> MAPTARGET=NO >>>>> $HASP893 VOLUME(B2SYS2) >>>>> VOLUME(B2SYS2) STATUS=ACTIVE,DSNAME=SYS1DisplKCELL=3,VOLUME=B2SYS >>>>> >>>>> $DSPOLLDEF >>>>> >>>>> JES parmlib member >>>>> >>>>> SPOOLDEF BUFSIZE=3856, /* MAXIMUM BUFFER SIZE &BUFSIZE c*/ >>>>> DSNAME=SYS1.HASPACE, >>>>> FENCE=NO, /* Don't Force to Min.Vol. &FENCE oc*/ >>>>> SPOOLNUM=32, /* Max. Num. Spool Vols --- c* >>>>> TGBPERVL=5, /* Track Groups per volume in BLOB ownc* >>>>> TGSIZE=33, /* 30 BUFFERS/TRACK GROUP &TGSIZE wnc*/ >>>>> TGSPACE=(MAX=26288, /* Fits TGMs into 4K Page &NUMTG=(, c*/ >>>>> WARN=80), /* &NUMTG=(,% onc*/ >>>>> TRKCELL=3, /* 3 Buffers/Track-cell &TCELSIZ c*/ >>>>> VOLUME=SPOOL /* SPOOL VOLUME SERIAL &SPOOL c*/ >>>>> <------- >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf Of Lizette Koehler >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:23 AM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: Spool file >>>>> >>>>> Only one HASPACE per JES2 Spool volume >>>>> >>>>> Lizette >>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List >>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:55 PM >>>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> Subject: Re: Spool file >>>>>> >>>>>> Issue a $DSPOOL,LONG and see what it shows >>>>>> >>>>>> Issue $DSPOOLDEF and see what it shows >>>>>> >>>>>> Next go to ISPF 3.4 >>>>>> >>>>>> Search >>>>>> >>>>>> ** in the dataset level >>>>>> SPOOL* in the VOLSER and see what it shows >>>>>> >>>>>> I am not clear about your statement: The spool volumes are still on the >>>>> same >>>>>> pack. Please provide a display of what you are seeing. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Lizette >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List >>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joseph Reichman >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:48 PM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Spool file >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have 3 vols SPOOL1 SPOOL2 and SPOOL3 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In jes2 parmlib member on the spool def for volume I specify SPOOL >>>>>>> and yet after ipl'ing >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And then going back to SDSF to look for the spool volumes are on >>>>>>> still on the same pack >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2017, at 11:20 AM, Lizette Koehler >>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The best practice for JES2 Spool file is standalone. Never put >>>>>>>> anything on the same volume as either the SPOOL Space or the CKPT >>>>>> datasets. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That can lead to unintentional issues. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Many shops in the past have tended towards multi-use volumes with >>>>>>>> JES2. This is not recommended. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> With storage arrays, you can code a volume as a MOD9 (9GB, 10,017 >>>>>>>> Cylinders) and only place the ckpt or the spool space (not both) >>>>>>>> on it. The array will typically only hold the amount of storage >>>>>>>> on the >>>>>>>> mod9 as is allocated. It does not hold the entire 10,017 >>>>>>>> cylinders when you only have a 60 cylinder dataset on it. As the >>>>>>>> volume is grown - the array will allocate more space to that >>>>>>>> device until it reaches >>>>>>> its maximum size. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, in my shop we have the ckpt on MOD3s and the Spool space on >>>>>>>> MOD54s. The MOD3s only use a small portion for the ckpt as the >>>>>>>> ckpt is >>>>>>> under 1000 cylinders. >>>>>>>> The MOD54s are maxed out as I have allocated the entire amount to >>>>>>>> the Spool space. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So even though there could be 3339 cylinders allocated for the >>>>>>>> MOD3, I am using barely 15% of that. So the volume is not very >>>>>>>> large even though it >>>>>>> could be. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Or your shop could elect to create MOD1s - which is any size you >>>>>>>> wish to define >>>>>>>> - for your ckpt and spool space to be considered stand alone. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When you start to mix files on volumes that should be dedicated - >>>>>>>> CA1 TMS, JES Spool or JES ckpt - you can enq that volume and >>>>>>>> cause issues to >>>>>>> those products. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Worst case scenario you might encounter is the need to cold start >>>>> jes2. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lizette >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List >>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joseph Reichman >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 5:47 AM >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Spool file >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm having problems with my spool file >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> SYS1.HASPACE >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It happens to be in the same pack as my parmlib And other >>>>>>>>> important files >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm wondering can the spool file be on any pack ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>> >>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
