Probably quite well.  Folks who make this kind of decisions are typically 
completely clueless as to what they're doing, unfortunately.

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of David Crayford
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 9:26 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Old hardware

How do your management sleep at night with an unsupported software?


On 19/04/2017 8:58 PM, John McKown wrote:
> That is interesting to know. But, unless the situation changes (IMO 
> "for the better"), then we are stuck on our current configuration 
> FOREVER. Upper management utterly hates, despises, abhors, and 
> denigrates the existence of z/OS. They truly seem to be "all Windows, 
> all the time!". I firmly believe that we could upgrade z/OS if and 
> only if the current I.T. management is completely replaced (and the COO as 
> well).
>
> We have a number of software packages on a permanent execution 
> license, but with _no_ upgrades or support included. When we upgraded 
> from z/OS 1.10 to 1.12, one of them died a horrible death. It put in 
> an address space termination exit which would _occasional_ abend with 
> S0C4-?? . I found that happened when the address space was in some 
> sort of cross memory mode. I had to create my own "patch" which 
> basically detected this and made a branch to the "right place". So, 
> upgrading z/OS is definitely out of the question. It could well cause 
> more products to abend due to incompatibilities and we would be stuck.
>
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 12:01 AM, Timothy Sipples <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> John McKown wrote:
>>> ​z9BC here. A two CP machine. Two LPARs running z/OS 1.12, but one 
>>> is just my "sandbox"​.
>> FYI, since the announcement of IBM Multi-Version Measurement (MVM):
>>
>> https://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/3/897/ENUS217-093/ENUS217-093.P
>> DF
>>
>> you are permitted to run newer IBM products that are compatible with 
>> your machine, within the same capacity(ies), at no additional 
>> charge.(**) Or, in other words, there is no more Single Version 
>> Charge (SVC) period. (Hurray!) MVM begins on June 1, 2017, based on 
>> your May, 2017, Sub-Capacity Reporting Tool (SCRT) submission. Since 
>> SVC offered a minimum of 12 months, anything newer that you start 
>> running now will only consume one or two months of SVC before MVM kicks in. 
>> In other words, MVM has effectively already arrived.
>>
>> Here are some examples of software releases compatible with your z9BC
>> machine:
>>
>> z/OS Version 2.1 (not 2.2 or above)
>> DB2 Version 10 for z/OS (not 11 or above) Enterprise COBOL Version 
>> 6.1 (*) CICS Transaction Server Version 5.3 (*) IBM SDK for z/OS Java 
>> Technology Edition Version 8 (*) WebSphere MQ Version 9 for z/OS (*)
>>
>> (*) Latest releases as I write this.
>>
>> All of the software releases listed above are currently IBM 
>> supported, as I write this. DB2 10 will reach End of Service (EoS) on 
>> September 30, 2017.
>> Since DB2 10 requires z/OS 1.10 or higher, if you're running DB2 then 
>> you might already have Version 10.
>>
>> Of course I don't recommend staying on a z9BC machine, but you can 
>> still move up somewhat without additional charge and without a machine 
>> upgrade.
>> Indeed possibly a lower peak processor utilization requirement, for 
>> example if you put Enterprise COBOL Version 6.1 to good use.
>>
>> (**) Read the fine print since it's *possible* to do something 
>> otherwise, as always.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> --------------------------------------------
>> Timothy Sipples
>> IT Architect Executive, Industry Solutions, IBM z Systems, AP/GCG/MEA
>> E-Mail: [email protected]
>>
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