The choices you get are UPDATE AND RESTART or UPDATE AND SHUTDOWN. But you must 
install the updates.


I learned later after having numerous crashes that you can set the METERED 
CONNECTION and it will  stop the automatic updates. But even that comes with 
some quirks. For example, I set it on my wife's machine but when she tried 
printing it said she may exceed her time so it wouldn't print. I had to remove 
the metered connection, do the print and turn it on again. I worry about the 
day when I need to enable it again.


I am not against the automatic updates. I am against the ones that cause 
crashes.


For example, they clobbered my WIFI driver after one update and I couldn't 
connect. I had to hardwire to the Comcast box to be able to keep working. When 
I had time, I did some searches and found they clobbered my WIFI driver. I 
found where to download the new driver and it worked again. But I pity the 
number of people who didn't know how to fix it and ran to Best Buy or Staples 
and spent a fortune.


The worst part is when they tell people they need a new machine and Microsoft 
makes yet more money. And nobody is saying a word about it, and IMHO it is the 
biggest RIP OFF of the century.


Another one was It didn't come up after the updates. I researched that and 
finally found that it was because you couldn't have anything plugged into a USB 
port, so even the wireless mouse stopped it from coming up. On a restart, I was 
only seeing those circular dots, the ones that give you a stomach ache. I used 
my wife's machine to Look It up and removed the USB devices and it came up.  I 
asked the guys at Best Buys and Staples how much they must be making from 
Windows 10 updates killing machines and they said a fortune.


Bill

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Clark Morris <[email protected]>
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To: [email protected]
Subject: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems 
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[Default] On 24 Jun 2017 12:43:13 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
[email protected] (scott Ford) wrote:

>Guys,
>
>I am a bit different. We run z/PDT on OpenSuse Leap 42.2 x64..running z/OS
>2.2 .
>But we us Windows and Linux for our LDAP with are STC agents on z/OS. I am
>basically all alone with other developers.
>My laptop runs Windows 10 Pro with a Tn3270 client and use ssh.

Does Windows 10 Pro have the forced automatic update?  Is the ability
to say that normal working hours are 00:01 to 24:00?  Do you always
have the choice of Shutdown without update?

Clark Morris
>
>I am seeing a lot of customers who lack knowledge in a lot of areas ...so I
>get pulled in ..
>
>Scott
>
>
>
>On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 4:19 PM John McKown <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Bobbie Justice <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > "As I  am reading this, all I can think of is Windows 10 and Automatic
>> > updates. Since accidentally going to Windows 10, I have crashed my laptop
>> > at least 10 times and spent many days and a lot of money trying to
>> recover.
>> > Be careful what you wish for."
>> >
>> > Ditto on windows anything. I've had quite enough of windows automatic
>> > updates, system restore, reboot, safe mode, reload the entire operating
>> > system, reload various drivers, reload various apps, reboot again, etc.
>> etc.
>> >
>> > No thanks.
>> >
>>
>> ?At home, I have Windows 7 Professional which I run in a VM under Linux -
>> Fedora 25. The _only_ time that I use this is to log on to work. It is
>> _required_ because work eliminated our VPN in favor of using "Microsoft
>> Terminal Server Gateway". This decision was made during the height of the
>> "We are going 100.00000% Microsoft! If it's not MS, we will refuse to run
>> it!" to the sounds of cheering by the Windows support staff.This was
>> immediately after our business-oriented CIO retired and the Windows
>> Infrastructure manager was promoted to CIO. That person is gone, but parts
>> of his "legacy" remains.
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Bobbie Jo Justice
>> > Senior z/OS Systems Engineer
>> >
>> >
>> --
>> Veni, Vidi, VISA: I came, I saw, I did a little shopping.
>>
>> Maranatha! <><
>> John McKown
>>
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