"I am not against the automatic updates. I am against the ones that
cause crashes."
Ha ha... perfect :)
A different story: I've been getting various "Time to update to Win 10
Creators Edition" messages (along with shutdown and scheduling options)
for a few weeks and put them off until yesterday when I had more time.
So I pushed the button. About 45 minutes later (and many automatic
reboots) my Win 10 box was back up and running fine. I tested all the
programs I normally use and I haven't found any problems yet. And
basically, other than an Edge window showing up initially with links to
new features (that I don't need), I haven't seen any changes.
I had a few USB's plugged in (disk, KVM switch, and an RC flight
simulator) and had no problems with the boot. This is a new and very
fast machine with SSD C drive, so that may have helped.
I do find it interesting that Microsoft is apparently forcing upgrades.
In the end this might be a good thing for both sides, even though
(like mainframes) it costs money and time and makes users upset. For
example, what if all those health-care organizations had the WannaCry
update already applied? It wouldn't have been news.
Bill Wilkie wrote:
The choices you get are UPDATE AND RESTART or UPDATE AND SHUTDOWN. But you must
install the updates.
I learned later after having numerous crashes that you can set the METERED
CONNECTION and it will stop the automatic updates. But even that comes with
some quirks. For example, I set it on my wife's machine but when she tried
printing it said she may exceed her time so it wouldn't print. I had to remove
the metered connection, do the print and turn it on again. I worry about the
day when I need to enable it again.
I am not against the automatic updates. I am against the ones that cause
crashes.
For example, they clobbered my WIFI driver after one update and I couldn't
connect. I had to hardwire to the Comcast box to be able to keep working. When
I had time, I did some searches and found they clobbered my WIFI driver. I
found where to download the new driver and it worked again. But I pity the
number of people who didn't know how to fix it and ran to Best Buy or Staples
and spent a fortune.
The worst part is when they tell people they need a new machine and Microsoft
makes yet more money. And nobody is saying a word about it, and IMHO it is the
biggest RIP OFF of the century.
Another one was It didn't come up after the updates. I researched that and
finally found that it was because you couldn't have anything plugged into a USB
port, so even the wireless mouse stopped it from coming up. On a restart, I was
only seeing those circular dots, the ones that give you a stomach ache. I used
my wife's machine to Look It up and removed the USB devices and it came up. I
asked the guys at Best Buys and Staples how much they must be making from
Windows 10 updates killing machines and they said a fortune.
Bill
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[email protected] (scott Ford) wrote:
Guys,
I am a bit different. We run z/PDT on OpenSuse Leap 42.2 x64..running z/OS
2.2 .
But we us Windows and Linux for our LDAP with are STC agents on z/OS. I am
basically all alone with other developers.
My laptop runs Windows 10 Pro with a Tn3270 client and use ssh.
Does Windows 10 Pro have the forced automatic update? Is the ability
to say that normal working hours are 00:01 to 24:00? Do you always
have the choice of Shutdown without update?
Clark Morris
I am seeing a lot of customers who lack knowledge in a lot of areas ...so I
get pulled in ..
Scott
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 4:19 PM John McKown <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Bobbie Justice <
[email protected]> wrote:
"As I am reading this, all I can think of is Windows 10 and Automatic
updates. Since accidentally going to Windows 10, I have crashed my laptop
at least 10 times and spent many days and a lot of money trying to
recover.
Be careful what you wish for."
Ditto on windows anything. I've had quite enough of windows automatic
updates, system restore, reboot, safe mode, reload the entire operating
system, reload various drivers, reload various apps, reboot again, etc.
etc.
No thanks.
?At home, I have Windows 7 Professional which I run in a VM under Linux -
Fedora 25. The _only_ time that I use this is to log on to work. It is
_required_ because work eliminated our VPN in favor of using "Microsoft
Terminal Server Gateway". This decision was made during the height of the
"We are going 100.00000% Microsoft! If it's not MS, we will refuse to run
it!" to the sounds of cheering by the Windows support staff.This was
immediately after our business-oriented CIO retired and the Windows
Infrastructure manager was promoted to CIO. That person is gone, but parts
of his "legacy" remains.
Bobbie Jo Justice
Senior z/OS Systems Engineer
--
Veni, Vidi, VISA: I came, I saw, I did a little shopping.
Maranatha! <><
John McKown
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