I got a really cheap eee 10 inch laptop from woot.com.  Would not
connect to wifi.  Did a search on the message and it was a bad wifi
driver.  Downloaded another Linux distribution and installed.

On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 6:51 AM, Bill Wilkie <[email protected]> wrote:
> The choices you get are UPDATE AND RESTART or UPDATE AND SHUTDOWN. But you 
> must install the updates.
>
>
> I learned later after having numerous crashes that you can set the METERED 
> CONNECTION and it will  stop the automatic updates. But even that comes with 
> some quirks. For example, I set it on my wife's machine but when she tried 
> printing it said she may exceed her time so it wouldn't print. I had to 
> remove the metered connection, do the print and turn it on again. I worry 
> about the day when I need to enable it again.
>
>
> I am not against the automatic updates. I am against the ones that cause 
> crashes.
>
>
> For example, they clobbered my WIFI driver after one update and I couldn't 
> connect. I had to hardwire to the Comcast box to be able to keep working. 
> When I had time, I did some searches and found they clobbered my WIFI driver. 
> I found where to download the new driver and it worked again. But I pity the 
> number of people who didn't know how to fix it and ran to Best Buy or Staples 
> and spent a fortune.
>
>
> The worst part is when they tell people they need a new machine and Microsoft 
> makes yet more money. And nobody is saying a word about it, and IMHO it is 
> the biggest RIP OFF of the century.
>
>
> Another one was It didn't come up after the updates. I researched that and 
> finally found that it was because you couldn't have anything plugged into a 
> USB port, so even the wireless mouse stopped it from coming up. On a restart, 
> I was only seeing those circular dots, the ones that give you a stomach ache. 
> I used my wife's machine to Look It up and removed the USB devices and it 
> came up.  I asked the guys at Best Buys and Staples how much they must be 
> making from Windows 10 updates killing machines and they said a fortune.
>
>
> Bill
>
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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of 
> Clark Morris <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 8:11 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Windows 10 Pro automatic update: was Re: Eliminating the systems 
> programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)
>
> [Default] On 24 Jun 2017 12:43:13 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
> [email protected] (scott Ford) wrote:
>
>>Guys,
>>
>>I am a bit different. We run z/PDT on OpenSuse Leap 42.2 x64..running z/OS
>>2.2 .
>>But we us Windows and Linux for our LDAP with are STC agents on z/OS. I am
>>basically all alone with other developers.
>>My laptop runs Windows 10 Pro with a Tn3270 client and use ssh.
>
> Does Windows 10 Pro have the forced automatic update?  Is the ability
> to say that normal working hours are 00:01 to 24:00?  Do you always
> have the choice of Shutdown without update?
>
> Clark Morris
>>
>>I am seeing a lot of customers who lack knowledge in a lot of areas ...so I
>>get pulled in ..
>>
>>Scott
>>
>>
>>
>>On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 4:19 PM John McKown <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Bobbie Justice <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> > "As I  am reading this, all I can think of is Windows 10 and Automatic
>>> > updates. Since accidentally going to Windows 10, I have crashed my laptop
>>> > at least 10 times and spent many days and a lot of money trying to
>>> recover.
>>> > Be careful what you wish for."
>>> >
>>> > Ditto on windows anything. I've had quite enough of windows automatic
>>> > updates, system restore, reboot, safe mode, reload the entire operating
>>> > system, reload various drivers, reload various apps, reboot again, etc.
>>> etc.
>>> >
>>> > No thanks.
>>> >
>>>
>>> ?At home, I have Windows 7 Professional which I run in a VM under Linux -
>>> Fedora 25. The _only_ time that I use this is to log on to work. It is
>>> _required_ because work eliminated our VPN in favor of using "Microsoft
>>> Terminal Server Gateway". This decision was made during the height of the
>>> "We are going 100.00000% Microsoft! If it's not MS, we will refuse to run
>>> it!" to the sounds of cheering by the Windows support staff.This was
>>> immediately after our business-oriented CIO retired and the Windows
>>> Infrastructure manager was promoted to CIO. That person is gone, but parts
>>> of his "legacy" remains.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Bobbie Jo Justice
>>> > Senior z/OS Systems Engineer
>>> >
>>> >
>>> --
>>> Veni, Vidi, VISA: I came, I saw, I did a little shopping.
>>>
>>> Maranatha! <><
>>> John McKown
>>>
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