[Default] On 9 Aug 2017 08:23:19 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main david.jou...@53.com (Jousma, David) wrote:
>Im not aware of any method using existing system services to track execution >of subroutines below PGM=. It would certainly be helpful to us, as we have >(I'm) many old application programs that pollute our system, but no one knows >if they are in use or not. This is becoming somewhat of a issue for us as we >are starting the migration to EC V6.1, and are forced to minimally >convert/recompile OS VS programs, and some VS Cobol II. I am pretty sure of >the thousands of these we have, there is a large percentage that are not in >use. Oh well, that will be the problem for the application teams to figure >out I guess. ;) > In the distant (over 25 years ago), I did long running GTF traces for LOAD, LINK and ATTACH and analyzed the results. Also if all of the subroutines are CALLed using CALL 'module-name' the source can be parsed to detect this using programs written in language of choice including COBOL. If called by the COBOL construct CALL data-name or the equivalent in other languages, this condition can at least be detected. Clark Morris >_________________________________________________________________ >Dave Jousma >Manager Mainframe Engineering, Assistant Vice President >david.jou...@53.com >1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB2H >p 616.653.8429 >f 616.653.2717 > > >-----Original Message----- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On >Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 >Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 11:02 AM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program? > >CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL > >Unfortunately I have no access to any SMF data here and I am prohibited from >running DCOLLECT for myself by security rules, so DAF while no doubt useful to >others is not much use to me here. > >These are old dynamically LOADed and called COBOL subroutines that we are not >sure of the actual usage. If they ever do get LOADed and called they will >DISPLAY identifying information in SYSOUT, but that then requires reading the >SYSOUT archive extensively to determine whether they were ever actually used. >That also only answers the question of usage for as far back as the SYSOUT >archive holds, which can be an issue if actual usage is (for instance) yearly >or less often. > >Archive scanning is tedious but doable. My initial request was part of >deciding whether we need to use the tedious path or not. > >Thanks again for your prompt reply. > >Peter > >-----Original Message----- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On >Behalf Of Lizette Koehler >Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 10:50 AM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Re: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program? > >There was a product you could purchase called SoftAudit. It could do some of >what you are looking for (If I remember correctly) > >The other options some shops took, was having their programs issue a WTO >indicating what module called what. Probably well past what you could work >with at this point. > >Another option was to create a calling program, that would cut an user SMF >record to collect some of this data. > > >Where you are at, you might need to purchase a product, like SoftAudit, that >could do some of this analysis. > >I think it would be very difficult to actually identify anything that is >executed from a LINK, XCTL, or LOAD function. Very little in SMF other than >the pgmname that can be captured. If you are asking - Can I identify when a >subroutine SUBA is called - probably not. If you want to know when MAINA is >used, probably yes > > >What you could do is download from CBTTAPE.ORG the utility DAF (Dataset Audit >Facility). > File # 094 DAF from Mike Cleary - Dataset Audit Facility > >It can read all SMF Data and provide summary information based on > > Program Name > Job Name > Date > DSN > >And so forth. > >I used it recently to see anything touching a specific library or program name. >It was very helpful. > >You can see if DAF can help. > >Hope that helps. > >Lizette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] >> On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 >> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 6:13 AM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Subject: Any SMF statistics available for LOAD of a program? >> >> As the subject says, are there any such SMF statistics available? We >> need to know if certain subroutines are ever LOADed anywhere in the >> sysplex by any batch program. We do collect SMF data, but I need to >> know which one may help, if any. >> >> I am not the systems programmer here, so I do not have access to any >> systems- level SMF parameter information or operator commands, I have >> to request that information from the performance team. I am just an >> application programmer trying to track information down to aid an >> application project. >> >> TIA for any assistance you can provide. >> >> Peter ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
