Hi Ron,
What happens to if our ficon card is 16gb, and fcp connection is 2gb, I try
to do the simulation on monoplex  lpar , the result is fine, now we are
suspect the GRS or other system parm which will increase the disconnect time

Ron hawkins <[email protected]> 於 2018年2月

15日 星期四寫道:

> Tommy,
>
> This should not be a surprise. The name "Synchronous Remote Copy" implies
> the overhead that you are seeing, namely the time for the synchronous write
> to the remote site.
>
> PPRC will more than double the response time of random writes because they
> the Host write to cache has the additional time of controller latency,
> round trip delay, and block transfer before the write is complete. On IBM
> and HDS (not sure with EMC) the impact is greater for single blocks, as
> chained sequential writes have some overlap between the host write, and the
> synchronous write.
>
> Some things to check:
>
> 1) Buffer Credits on ISLs between the sites. If no ISLs then settings on
> the storage host ports to cater for 30km B2B credits
> 2) Channel speed step-down - If your FICON channels are 8Gb, and the FCP
> connections are 2Gb, then PPRC writes will take up to four times longer to
> transfer. It dep[ends on the block size.
> 3) Unbalanced ISLs - ISLs do not automatically rebalance after one drops.
> The more concurrent IO there is on an ISL, the longer the transfer time for
> each PPRC write. There may be one opr more ISL that are not being used,
> while others are overloaded
> 4) Switch board connections not optimal - talk to your switch vendor
> 5) Host adapter ports connections not optimal - talk to your storage vendor
> 6) Sysplex tuning may identify IO that can convert from disk to Sysplex
> caching. Not my expertise, but I'm sure there are some red books.
>
> There is good information on PPRC activity in the RMF Type 78 records. You
> may want to do some analysis of these to see how transfer rates and PPRC
> write response time correlate with your DASD disconnect time.
>
> Final Comment: do you really need synchronous remote copy? If your company
> requires zero data loss, then you don't get this from synchronous
> replication alone. You must use the Critical=Yes option which has it's own
> set of risks and challenges. If you are not using GDPS and Hyperswap for
> hot failover, then synchronous is not much better than asynchronous.
> Rolling disasters, transaction roll back, and options that turn off
> in-flight data set recovery can all see synchronous recovery time end up
> with the same RPO as Asynchronous.
>
> Ron
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Tommy Tsui
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 12:41 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] DASD problem
>
> Hi,
> The distance is around 30km, do you know any settings on sysplex
> environment such as GRS and JES2 checkpoint need to aware?
> Direct DASD via San switch to Dr site , 2GBPS interface , we check with
> vendor, they didn't find any problem on San switch or DASD, I suspect the
> system settings
>
> Alan(GMAIL)Watthey <[email protected]> 於 2018年2月15日 星期四寫道:
>
> > Tommy,
> >
> > This sounds like the PPRC links might be a bit slow or there are not
> > enough of them.
> >
> > What do you have?  Direct DASD to DASD or via a single SAN switch or
> > even cascaded?  What settings (Gbps) are all the interfaces running at
> > (you can ask the switch for the switch and RMF for the DASD)?
> >
> > What type of fibre are they?  LX or SX?  What kind of length are they?
> >
> > Any queueing?
> >
> > There are so many variables that can affect the latency.  Are there
> > any of the above that you can improve on?
> >
> > I can't remember what IBM recommends but 80% sounds a little high to me.
> > They are only used for writes (not reads).
> >
> > Regards,
> > Alan Watthey
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tommy Tsui [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: 15 February 2018 12:15 am
> > Subject: DASD problem
> >
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> >
> >
> > Our shop found the most job elapse time prolong due to pprc
> > synchronization versus without pprc mode. It's almost 4 times faster
> > if without pprc synchronization. Is there any parameters we need to
> > tune on z/os or disk subsystem side? We found the % disk util in RMF
> > report over 80, Any help will be appreciated. Many thanks
> >
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