got ya, and I've never been at a site with DFSMSDSS DISABLED, bet disabling would be quite interesting :)
Carmen Vitullo ----- Original Message ----- From: "RICHARD W. PINION" <rpin...@firsttennessee.com> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 1:52:30 PM Subject: Re: FDRMOVE sample jcl I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but DSS has a separate entry in IFAPRDxx. I said, we're not paying for it. But we are until we can convert application level backups to use FDRAPPL. But, if what you say is true, then maybe applications can continue to use DSS. I'm not the person who keeps up with the contracts and licensing. PRODUCT OWNER('IBM CORP') NAME('z/OS') ID(5650-ZOS) VERSION(*) RELEASE(*) MOD(*) FEATURENAME(DFSMSDSS) STATE(ENABLED) PRODUCT OWNER('IBM CORP') NAME('z/OS') ID(5650-ZOS) VERSION(*) RELEASE(*) MOD(*) FEATURENAME(DFSMSHSM) STATE(DISABLED) PRODUCT OWNER('IBM CORP') NAME('z/OS') ID(5650-ZOS) VERSION(*) RELEASE(*) MOD(*) FEATURENAME(DFSMSRMM) STATE(ENABLED) -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 2:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FDRMOVE sample jcl [External Email] HSM and RMM are other payable products/services under the DF/SMS service, but DF/DSS 'data set services' are not payable services or product, its part of the base or base + features. Carmen Vitullo ----- Original Message ----- From: "RICHARD W. PINION" <rpin...@firsttennessee.com> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 1:34:50 PM Subject: Re: FDRMOVE sample jcl DF/DSS & HSM can be deleted from the list of IBM products, and thus not be charged for them. In our shop, we have FDR/ABR/CPK and pay for those, but we not do pay for DF/DSS & HSM. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 2:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FDRMOVE sample jcl [External Email] It BEEN a part of DPF for so many years, I don't order DFS services or ADRDSSU separately or get charged for these services. I know most folks, if they get use to using FDR they'd rather use FDR for some functions, I know you can copy/move using ADRDSSU and once you have some good JCL and control cards (I use ISMF to create some samples) its quite easy, but so is FDR if you're use to it. Carmen Vitullo ----- Original Message ----- From: "retired mainframer" <retired-mainfra...@q.com> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 1:22:12 PM Subject: Re: FDRMOVE sample jcl Doesn't ADRDSSU come with SMS automatically? Is it really a separately priced product? > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On > Behalf Of Clark Morris > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 10:39 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: FDRMOVE sample jcl > > [Default] On 5 Mar 2018 10:11:44 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main > retired-mainfra...@q.com (retired mainframer) wrote: > > >Why must it be FDR? Won't ADRDSSU do it? > > Probably because the original poster has the Innovation products and > doesn't have the DSS/HSM products. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN FIRST TENNESSEE Confidentiality notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for delivery of this message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this e-mail message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this e-mail message from your computer. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN