Don't confuse the limitations of the TSO VTIOC for 3270 with the limitations of 
the application using them. The klunkiness of the OMVS command is because they 
didn't choose to avail themselves of the available services.


--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of 
John McKown <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 11:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: z/OS "interactive computing" - AKA TSO/ISPF or UNIX shell

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Nightwatch RenBand <
[email protected]> wrote:

> John, you may already know this, but if you do "TSO ISHELL"  you can then d
> B Browse or E Edit on a OMVS file and you have most, perhaps all I haven't
> checked everything, that ISPF editor can do.  Try it
>
>
​Yes, it has some nice facilities. But I cannot _easily_ invoke UNIX
commands from it​, doing "UNIXy" things. And don't get me started on the
TSO OMVS command (which I despise mainly due to the limitations of TSO
3270).

Basically what I would like is to "invert" the "normal" process that I've
seen - that being when when someone uses the TSO OMVS command under ISPF to
do UNIX commands while staying in TSO. What I really want is to invoke ISPF
from a UNIX prompt, replacing the 3270 terminal interface with either a
"curses" (aka termcap) or a X11 terminal interface. Being able to do TSO
commands under UNIX ISPF would also be nice. REXX under UNIX has a nice
facility where it starts up a TSO address space when an ADDRESS TSO is
first used in a REXX program; said TSO address space continues until
explicitly shut down via a LOGOFF command or implicitly when the REXX
program ends.


--
I have a theory that it's impossible to prove anything, but I can't prove
it.

Maranatha! <><
John McKown

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