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> On Mar 26, 2018, at 16:14, Charles Mills <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I can't get Windows on 3480 cartridge?!?
> 
> That does it! We're converting to TRSDOS instead.
> 
> Charles
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Gibney, Dave
> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 1:48 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Software Delivery on Tape to be Discontinued
> 
> And just exactly how do they expect to get Windows? Microsoft is basically 
> subscriptions services noadaays.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] 
>> On Behalf Of Edward Gould
>> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 1:40 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Software Delivery on Tape to be Discontinued
>> 
>>>> On Mar 26, 2018, at 2:23 PM, John Eells <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 13:33:23 -0500, Edward Gould wrote:
>>>>>> "IBM plans to discontinue delivery of z/OS platform products and
>> service on magnetic tape on July 1, 2018.  ..."
>>>>> Congratulations to IBM. This sounds the death nell for z/OS at this 
>>>>> install.
>>>>> What will you do instead?
>>> 
>>> (I'm not sure why I can't see Ed's post, so I copied the above from
>>> another.)
>>> 
>>> First, we are still delivering these things on DVD and have no 
>>> current plans
>> to stop doing that.  So, if that was your concern, a connection to the 
>> internet from z/OS is not required.
>>> 
>>> In addition to that, you can take a laptop outside your firewall, 
>>> download
>> stuff*, bring the laptop back in, connect to your internal network, 
>> and upload it to z/OS to be processed.  A connection from z/OS to the 
>> internet is not required for this, either, and it's probably faster 
>> than waiting for a DVD to arrive.  I don't have actual numbers handy, 
>> but the data volume for most orders is probably less than you need to 
>> download for a Netflix movie in SD.
>> If you are ordering the gorilla in the room (z/OS itself), it's about 
>> what you need for a few Netflix HD movies.
>>> 
>>> Then, if you are willing to buy hardware as David Boyes outlined, 
>>> you can
>> perhaps do it that way.  I have no knowledge about these products, and 
>> we have not tested that approach, so I do not know whether or not it 
>> works.  If someone has tried it, I'd be (academically, I'll admit) 
>> interesting in knowing about the outcome.
>>> 
>>> * "Stuff" = Products, PTFs, HOLDDATA, etc.
>>> 
>>> --
>> John:
>> Between the Auditor and the CEO they are of one voice. No outside data 
>> (include DVD’s) are allowed. They have been quite vocal in this and 
>> insists it be their way or noway.
>> Ed
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