On 3/27/18, 9:48 AM, "IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of John Eells" 
<[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote:

> Ah, so that's what you meant.  I hadn't inferred that from your earlier post.

Sorry, replies crossed in the ether. 

> As the original builder of the ADCD systems (originally created to 
> support P390s)

Didn't the P370 also support AWSTAPE? I don't remember -- that was a long time 
ago. Or were you just using P390 as a generic term?

> However, we do not, and have no plans to, deliver the DVD files in AWSTAPE 
> format.

That would seem to meet everyone's needs here, and it'd be trivial to support 
both electronic or physical media delivery options for the people that care one 
way or another. You (or some contractor, given IBM's current attitude about 
services and the people who deliver them) could easily support people that want 
physical media (copy the files to your preferred delivery media - the Hercules 
folks have done a fine job of providing an example of tools to do that), no one 
has to do anything different if they don't want to (don't break existing 
customer processes), and you create jobs for some folks so the people at the 
top of the food chain can point at all the things IBM is doing to improve the 
economy, even if those people aren't IBMers.  Everybody wins, and no wheels 
need to get invented. (*insert sarcasm as needed*)

> Were there hardware available to read the files we do supply on DVD so 
> they could be written to the z/OS UNIX file system, I would find that 
> interesting.

Well, you're in a better positon to bug the Powers That Be that do hardware 
design and delivery... 8-) 

Seriously, I'd buy one. License Fundamental's code for the FlexCUB and give it 
a FICON adapter, and I'd buy a lot more than one. Might kill your disk division 
(or at least change what it does), but the "mainframe different because we can 
be" meme would finally be put to rest. It's not like the actual disk hardware 
has been anything unique for quite a while now, and you wouldn't have to accept 
the performance issues with FICON vs raw FCP. Would also avoid the mods needed 
to teach z/OS how to cope with FBA disks. 




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