[Default] On 26 Mar 2018 13:38:52 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
[email protected] (Edward Gould) wrote:

>> On Mar 26, 2018, at 2:23 PM, John Eells <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 13:33:23 -0500, Edward Gould wrote:
>>>>> "IBM plans to discontinue delivery of z/OS platform products and service 
>>>>> on magnetic tape on July 1, 2018.  ..."
>>>> Congratulations to IBM. This sounds the death nell for z/OS at this 
>>>> install.
>>>> What will you do instead?
>> 
>> (I'm not sure why I can't see Ed's post, so I copied the above from another.)
>> 
>> First, we are still delivering these things on DVD and have no current plans 
>> to stop doing that.  So, if that was your concern, a connection to the 
>> internet from z/OS is not required.
>> 
>> In addition to that, you can take a laptop outside your firewall, download 
>> stuff*, bring the laptop back in, connect to your internal network, and 
>> upload it to z/OS to be processed.  A connection from z/OS to the internet 
>> is not required for this, either, and it's probably faster than waiting for 
>> a DVD to arrive.  I don't have actual numbers handy, but the data volume for 
>> most orders is probably less than you need to download for a Netflix movie 
>> in SD.  If you are ordering the gorilla in the room (z/OS itself), it's 
>> about what you need for a few Netflix HD movies.
>> 
>> Then, if you are willing to buy hardware as David Boyes outlined, you can 
>> perhaps do it that way.  I have no knowledge about these products, and we 
>> have not tested that approach, so I do not know whether or not it works.  If 
>>  someone has tried it, I'd be (academically, I'll admit) interesting in 
>> knowing about the outcome.
>> 
>> * "Stuff" = Products, PTFs, HOLDDATA, etc.
>> 
>> -- 
>John:
>Between the Auditor and the CEO they are of one voice. No outside data 
>(include DVD’s) are allowed. They have been quite vocal in this and insists it 
>be their way or noway.

My response is that both are idiots and I would like to know the name
of the company so I can short sell it.  They are going to convert to
Windows which might supply a DVD but not keep it up to date.  All
fixes are delivered via Internet.  What makes these people think that
tape can't be subverted?  IBM should make a way for z/OS to read the
DVDs but frankly unless the mainframe at this company only has hard
wired connections to it and NO outside connection, it needs Internet
delivery of fixes for time dependency reasons.

Given this mentality, I would be worried about security on that
mainframe.

Clark Morris

>Ed
>
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