Yes, we have the cloud before if was “popular”, it was called a Service Bureau, which did your work and charged appropriately. Now part of it is diy and your charged more.
Scott On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 4:04 PM Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote: > cloud = timesharing > > Someone else deploys the infrastructure, to you it's a black box. Less > control but also less manpower. Some legal issues. > > No, z/OS is not a cloud, but neither is AIX, *bsd, Linux, windows or > Solaris; it's the deployment that makes it a cloud or not a cloud. You can > have a cloud with z/OS just as much as you can have one with, e.g., Linux. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf > of Phil Smith III <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 1:21 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: IBM Z and cloud > > OK, so what do we mean by "cloud"? What *customers* seem to mean is "a > compute platform where I can run my stuff but not have to deal with buying > hardware and racking and cabling it and in general all the work of running > a data center". By which definition, of course, traditional timesharing > fits. > > > > For x86, this is currently AWS and Google Cloud Platform and Microsoft > Azure (and not HPE Helion). For z, it's more like the IBM Dallas developer > systems, where you can rent a virtual machine that runs z/OS or z/VM or > Linux, and then do whatever you want with that OS. > > > > My conclusion is that the vendors (and IBM) who are saying "IBM Z and > cloud" are not being honest with themselves. Calling a tail a leg doesn't > make it one, and saying "We like IBM Z and it *can* do cloud-ish stuff, > therefore we will say it's good for cloud" is not a rational (much less > convincing) argument. > > > > Again, I'd love to be proven wrong. But the relative silence on this > thread tends to suggest that nobody else buys it either. Well, nobody > besides Ginny & Co. > > > > .phsiii > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Scott Ford IDMWORKS z/OS Development ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
