So are the 360/30, 360/40, 3605/50, 360/65, 360/67, 370/145, 370/148, 370/155, 370/158, 370/165, 370/168, ...
It's not the implementation that determines whether it is a mainframe. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on behalf of R.S. <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2019 5:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SPAM] Hmc for z as a virtual appliance? W dniu 2019-02-02 o 01:42, Tony Harminc pisze: > On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 at 09:29, R.S. <[email protected]> wrote: >> IMHO the topic is HMC for zPDT. Unfortunately zPDT does not have HMC in >> any form, real or emulated. >> It's not mainframe, it's only emulation. > No, zPDT *is* a mainframe. It implements a permitted subset of the > architecture documented in the Principles of Operation. > > The HMC is not described in the Principles of Operation. It replaces > the knobs, lights, and switches that provided the operator interface > on older systems. Some of the *functions* performed by the HMC are > architected (and are implemented by zPDT without an HMC), but none of > how it works or what the interface looks like. Here is the only > description of anything like an HMC in the POO: No, zPDT is not mainframe. It is emulator, like Hercules. Of course there is no single official definition of mainframe - you can say the emulator on PC is real machine, for me it's emulator, for some sales people big PC server deserves to be named mainframe (despite it can run Windows). Of course there were older IBM mainframes in pre-HMC era or just were non-IBM mainframes (ICL, GE...) -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland ====================================================================== Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości: - powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!), - usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub zapisałeś na dysku). Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, narusza prawo i może podlegać karze. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,http://secure-web.cisco.com/1T1t4vlaLA5bgjD1q2dLGVQf8QEU5Ogh7MWpXwbHaoIN81h1Xm1alAlAdtGzIVdnCSIF2I5HJzhGC7ATMgwYBJA6BiCMZE33rWjr9ICaoGTFKUpmLdWfmbwH6KkmMVJOEvJzEkemqIY9xY5AXrWtwlLs0KLdyTo7gktzKQtwPZuz_1xm4M6ogTO2YLp7DlQf8Cu9m1hboROzArHAQIJCBKAeRCQBn1c_h0IN43r3uhSk8QlgxvjHYurvB8pyM6AVgSU1KmfPc7bs0oDzGfb1YgfXuHdapHaOM1s5DB0SH5H2OtLEZLW0R4tiuZn9yr76yBWxm765S1NAZAnvosNSbpCf_72JqNnslB__wM9dDidGkouTQRjzPvsEy_ltv-VeRGUHyrgwg4f43x1qF7xfUi-LhCxXDC4ZnZ_AcNiK_aikcUamCuPrCVv0QG93KiMPo/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mBank.pl, e-mail: [email protected]. Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 0000025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w całości) według stanu na 01.01.2018 r. wynosi 169.248.488 złotych. If you are not the addressee of this message: - let us know by replying to this e-mail (thank you!), - delete this message permanently (including all the copies which you have printed out or saved). This message may contain legally protected information, which may be used exclusively by the addressee.Please be reminded that anyone who disseminates (copies, distributes) this message or takes any similar action, violates the law and may be penalised. mBank S.A. with its registered office in Warsaw, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,http://secure-web.cisco.com/1T1t4vlaLA5bgjD1q2dLGVQf8QEU5Ogh7MWpXwbHaoIN81h1Xm1alAlAdtGzIVdnCSIF2I5HJzhGC7ATMgwYBJA6BiCMZE33rWjr9ICaoGTFKUpmLdWfmbwH6KkmMVJOEvJzEkemqIY9xY5AXrWtwlLs0KLdyTo7gktzKQtwPZuz_1xm4M6ogTO2YLp7DlQf8Cu9m1hboROzArHAQIJCBKAeRCQBn1c_h0IN43r3uhSk8QlgxvjHYurvB8pyM6AVgSU1KmfPc7bs0oDzGfb1YgfXuHdapHaOM1s5DB0SH5H2OtLEZLW0R4tiuZn9yr76yBWxm765S1NAZAnvosNSbpCf_72JqNnslB__wM9dDidGkouTQRjzPvsEy_ltv-VeRGUHyrgwg4f43x1qF7xfUi-LhCxXDC4ZnZ_AcNiK_aikcUamCuPrCVv0QG93KiMPo/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mBank.pl, e-mail: [email protected]. District Court for the Capital City of Warsaw, 12th Commercial Division of the National Court Register, KRS 0000025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Fully paid-up share capital amounting to PLN 169,248,488 as at 1 January 2018. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
