At $previousjob we had copies of the ICSF Master Encryption Keys stored in 
secure locations. During disaster recovery testing authorized people would 
re-enter those keys into the crypto-express hardware on that processor. One 
time we also lost a crypto-express card on our production machine. The working 
card handled all of our encryption/decryption processing and when the failed 
card was replaced, we had to enter the ICSF master keys into it before it was 
able to be used.

Mark Jacobs


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On Wednesday, August 7, 2019 2:55 AM, Arthur <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 6 Aug 2019 07:59:59 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
> (Message-ID:lnxp265mb1484a20a9858d5a5271421bec7...@lnxp265mb1484.gbrp265.prod.outlook.com)
> [email protected] (Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw) wrote:
>
> > Access to the ICSF CKDS would not be enough, as the keys
> > held there are encrypted (wrapped) using the master key.
> > The master key is held in the Crypto Express domain
> > corresponding to the LPAR in question. There is no
> > interface to extract the master key from the Crypto
> > Express device. The Crypto Express device is a FIPS 140-2
> > level 4 device so it will resist all sorts of attempts to
> > get at the master keys. It will destroy those keys before
> > you can get them out.
>
> Are you suggesting that if the Crypto Express device goes
> belly-up, that all encrypted data is forevermore
> unavailable? How does one decrypt during disaster testing
> or a real disaster?
>
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