Thank you to Brian and others. I am OOO next week. 

We are actually pretty current on EntireX. I thought I knew all SAG products, 
but ASM isn't one I remember.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On
> Behalf Of Brian Westerman
> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2019 10:44 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: z/OS 2.1 to 2.4 [EXTERNAL]
> 
> Yes, you need to have current maintenance on your old 2.1 system, but your
> ability to fall back based on what you have stated in your response makes it
> so that your fallback (if necessary) will not be an issue for you.  Depending 
> on
> your product mix, I think that SAG might have a simple work around for you
> for allowusekeycsa(yes), and so long as you are using the Version 8 SVC
> (which still supports version 7 Adabas products like cluster services and
> parallel services) you will be okay for all but a small number of products.
> There are some products that you will have to update but they are likely
> minor in your case (older EntireX Brokers), at least they should be because
> very little depends on the actual release of the broker.  There are some
> special PPT entries you have to perform as well that depend on your
> products, but there is an SAG page that tell you all of them.
> 
> The only problem you will hit is with Natural, which needs to be at 4.2.4 to
> not need the allowuserkeycsa(yes), this will require SAG's ASM to do this,
> but I think it's free.
> 
> I have performed several upgrades to old levels of Adabas (back to version
> 7.1) for just the Natural component, and they are truly dead simple, and if
> done correctly won't require you to recatalog everything in the natural
> libraries either (at least not manually depending on how far back you are).
> Plus, again with proper planning, you have a fallback that you can implement
> within a few minutes.  Remember if you upgrade Natural, you still have to
> install ASM.  The suggested solution SAG is to install ASM Authorized Services
> Manager with all versions of Natural that use the older buffer pools and want
> to convert to allowuserkeycsa(no).
> 
> Brian
> 
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