Derek - My old 27   (1972 - #448)   still had the original halyards when I sold 
her last summer.  YES you run out of rope and into the wire at the winch - that 
is correct and normal - I see by your pictures you have a winch handle on the 
main halyard winch - I NEVER used the winch to pull the main HIGHER on the 
mast.  Pull the halyard tight by hand and cleat it off.   For normal sailing 
that was usually adequate tension.  If I needed more tightness - I had rigged a 
cunningham at the boom that pulled the boom down to the black line or slightly 
below - (as a safety matter - all that extra line laying loose on the deck 
bothers me - I hope you just dropped it there for the photo shoot)

Topping lift - The factory installed gizmo on the back stay was missing when I 
took delivery of Wind Quest - there was a rope topping lift from the mast head 
through a turning block at the aft end of the boom and forward to the mast end 
where it was cleated off.   This was very usefull in extremely light air 
because I could lift the boom to provide extra depth to the sail...  The really 
nice part of this was that the boom did not drop when I put the mail sail down 
and you did not have to be directly into the wind because the boom would lay 
either port or starboard to the extent the main sheet would allow -

Best of luck  -  have fun with it.........

capt.bill - #448 Wind Quest (tall rig)



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From: Derek Atkin <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 11:08:34 AM
Subject: Re: [IC27A] First Sail on The C27 - have a few questions

  
My halyards are external. original wire/rope. I will take some more detailed 
shots of what is there. I don't really plan on using the spinnaker any time 
soon - but don't want to remove the hardware just yet.

The boat does have a topping lift. I have been using that cable as a secondary 
limiter on the end of the boom when the boat is at rest.

Derek.-

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From: "Sneddon, Keith - ES/IS" <keith.sneddon@ itt.com>
To: "ic...@yahoogroups. com" <ic...@yahoogroups. com>
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 10:22:20 AM
Subject: RE: [IC27A] First Sail on The C27 - have a few questions

I agree. It's not really a topping lift. I have one, but only use it at the 
dock.

Keith Sneddon
#4760, "Are We There Yet?"
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Guttridge
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 10:18 AM
To: ic...@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [IC27A] First Sail on The C27 - have a few questions

That little pigtail on the backstay is a poor excuse for a topping lift.
I had it shake out and drop the boom on someone's head while dropping
the main in heavy winds. I would recommend rigging a real topping lift
that allows the boom to swing freely and can't shake out.

From: ic...@yahoogroups. com<mailto:IC27A% 40yahoogroups. com> [mailto:IC27A@ 
yahoogroups. com<mailto:IC27A% 40yahoogroups. com>] On Behalf Of
David Savlin
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 10:12 AM
To: ic...@yahoogroups. com<mailto:IC27A% 40yahoogroups. com>
Subject: Re: [IC27A] First Sail on The C27 - have a few questions

Hi Derek, welcome to IC27A ! I'll join Brian in answering with the
caveat
that every boat can be different and yours is older than mine.

1. Headsail (and mains'l) halyards -- we don't have any cable on our
'88.
It's rope line all the way. The only rope-and-cable rigging we have is
for
our topping lift. Do your halyards all run inside or outside your mast?
If
inside I'd look at the sheaves (the rollers) and see if they are
cable-sized
or rope-sized. I don't see any deck organizers near the base of your
mast,
whereas we've normally got 4 lines that are run all the way to the
cockpit's
forward edge for halyards.

2. We have a 150 jenny too, we keep our rail cars a little forward of
yours
-- roughly even with the cabin entryway. We only ever move them if we're
flying a spinnaker.

3. Yeah, that does look like your topping lift.
4. This is normal on every Catalina my family has ever owned (30, 42,
and
this 27).

5. That's a good question. See point #1 above ... can't really tell.

I'm no expert so take my comments as that of a lazy day sailor. Fair
winds
to you!

David

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Derek Atkin <atkin...@yahoo. 
com<mailto:atkin11j % 40yahoo.com>
<mailto:atkin11j% 40yahoo.com> > wrote:

>
>
> Yesterday was the first time I was able to get out and get the sails
up
> after 10 months of work on my 79 C27. I have a few questions about the
rig -
> and posted a few pics here:
>
> http://www.opus45. com/c27rig/
>
> 1. I might have some issues with halyard length. The headsail halyard
seems
> to be to long - by the time I get it down to the winch I am on steel,
no
> rope left. Does the headsail halyard run through a block on the deck
first?
>
> 2. Any guidance on placement of the genoa sheet cars on the track? The
sail
> is a 150.
>
> 3. What is the steel cable with the clasp dangling from the backstay?
>
> 4. I assume that its normal that the genoa hits the front pulpit a
bit?
>
> 5. Is it the Spinnaker halyard that runs through the block on the base
of
> the mast and back to the cockpit? or is that the link for the
spinnaker
> pole?
>
> Thanks for the info.
>
> Derek A.
> #4297
>
>
>

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