There is no THE position for the genny cars.? It depends upon wind conditions 
and your particular sail.? The simple answer is that your tell tales should be 
breaking evenly from top to bottom.? To accomplish this in different wind 
conditions one moves the cars back and forward until good sail shape is 
achieved.? Many genny's have a line of reinforcing stitching at the clew that 
one can use as a guide.? This is true of my Air Force sails.? When the sheet is 
pulling in line with this stitching, the car is usually properly set for the 
conditions.? Generally, one will have the cars further forward in light air and 
further back in heavy air.? The? "proper" set for the car on one side may not 
be the same as for the other side as wind and wave conditions may dictate 
different settings.? Usually, this difference would only be one hole further 
forward or aft.? Irregularities in tune might also show up as a need for 
different car settings.? I assume you are not racing, but it is nice to sail 
efficiently even when cruising.

I have both the center fixed topping lift, useful at mooring (it has a clip 
that closes and ensures it will not jump off), and a topping lift that allows 
free movement of the boom with the main up.? It can be very dangerous to have 
your boom held fixed in position with the main up.? Best rig a topping lift 
that will allow the boom to swing unless you want to give the boat and yourself 
a good bath.? Blood in the water is not recommended.

John McLaughlin
SR #1994
Shambhala





 





 



-----Original Message-----

From: Derek Atkin <[email protected]>

To: [email protected]

Sent: Mon, Jul 20, 2009 11:08 am

Subject: Re: [IC27A] First Sail on The C27 - have a few questions



























    


                  

My halyards are external. original wire/rope. I will take some more detailed 
shots of what is there. I don't really plan on using the spinnaker any time 
soon - but don't want to remove the hardware just yet.





The boat does have a topping lift. I have been using that cable as a secondary 
limiter on the end of the boom when the boat is at rest.





Derek.-





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From: "Sneddon, Keith - ES/IS" <[email protected]>


To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>


Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 10:22:20 AM


Subject: RE: [IC27A] First Sail on The C27 - have a few questions





I agree. It's not really a topping lift. I have one, but only use it at the 
dock.





Keith Sneddon


#4760, "Are We There Yet?"


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From: ic...@yahoogroups. com [mailto:ic...@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of John 
Guttridge


Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 10:18 AM


To: ic...@yahoogroups. com


Subject: RE: [IC27A] First Sail on The C27 - have a few questions





That little pigtail on the backstay is a poor excuse for a topping lift.


I had it shake out and drop the boom on someone's head while dropping


the main in heavy winds. I would recommend rigging a real topping lift


that allows the boom to swing freely and can't shake out.





From: ic...@yahoogroups. com<mailto:IC27A% 40yahoogroups. com> 
[mailto:ic...@yahoogroups. com<mailto:IC27A% 40yahoogroups. com>] On Behalf Of


David Savlin


Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 10:12 AM


To: ic...@yahoogroups. com<mailto:IC27A% 40yahoogroups. com>


Subject: Re: [IC27A] First Sail on The C27 - have a few questions





Hi Derek, welcome to IC27A ! I'll join Brian in answering with the


caveat


that every boat can be different and yours is older than mine.





1. Headsail (and mains'l) halyards -- we don't have any cable on our


'88.


It's rope line all the way. The only rope-and-cable rigging we have is


for


our topping lift. Do your halyards all run inside or outside your mast?


If


inside I'd look at the sheaves (the rollers) and see if they are


cable-sized


or rope-sized. I don't see any deck organizers near the base of your


mast,


whereas we've normally got 4 lines that are run all the way to the


cockpit's


forward edge for halyards.





2. We have a 150 jenny too, we keep our rail cars a little forward of


yours


-- roughly even with the cabin entryway. We only ever move them if we're


flying a spinnaker.





3. Yeah, that does look like your topping lift.


4. This is normal on every Catalina my family has ever owned (30, 42,


and


this 27).





5. That's a good question. See point #1 above ... can't really tell.





I'm no expert so take my comments as that of a lazy day sailor. Fair


winds


to you!





David





On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Derek Atkin <atkin...@yahoo. 
com<mailto:atkin11j% 40yahoo.com>


<mailto:atkin11j% 40yahoo.com> > wrote:





>


>


> Yesterday was the first time I was able to get out and get the sails


up


> after 10 months of work on my 79 C27. I have a few questions about the


rig -


> and posted a few pics here:


>


> http://www.opus45. com/c27rig/


>


> 1. I might have some issues with halyard length. The headsail halyard


seems


> to be to long - by the time I get it down to the winch I am on steel,


no


> rope left. Does the headsail halyard run through a block on the deck


first?


>


> 2. Any guidance on placement of the genoa sheet cars on the track? The


sail


> is a 150.


>


> 3. What is the steel cable with the clasp dangling from the backstay?


>


> 4. I assume that its normal that the genoa hits the front pulpit a


bit?


>


> 5. Is it the Spinnaker halyard that runs through the block on the base


of


> the mast and back to the cockpit? or is that the link for the


spinnaker


> pole?


>


> Thanks for the info.


>


> Derek A.


> #4297


>


>


>





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