Way to go Clyde - nice system! I can't wait to get my new winches installed so I can singlehand my tiller-steered baby more easily. Ya just gotta have a plan, no matter what the rig is.
John McLaughlin 1994 SR #1994 "Shambhala" For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die. -----Original Message----- From: Clyde Thorington <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, Nov 30, 2009 5:30 pm Subject: Re: [IC27A] Re: Wheel steering Went from C27 tiller to C30 wheel steering with midboom sheeting. Singlehand 99% of the time and find it is not too difficult. When tack move around wheel release jib sheet flip up traveler line then over to now lee sheet and crank in jib sheet reach back with hand to wheel and correct steering back behind wheel pull in traveler line and away I go. Keep traveler lines looped over wheel guard. Get some pretty good winds in San Francisco Bay and Delta area. Will be 81 this month so If I can do it anyone can. At first did miss pressure of water on rudder/tiller to get feel of boat. Clyde Thorington ex C27 now C30 San Jose, CA --- On Mon, 11/30/09, mlong9876 <[email protected]> wrote: From: mlong9876 <[email protected]> Subject: [IC27A] Re: Wheel steering To: [email protected] Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 11:30 AM I too, have mid-boom sheeting and a wheel and have found that it takes a while to get used to single-handing it. The winches are completely out of reach (for me) and I have to go in front of the wheel to tack. I have found that the main sheet is far less effective than other boats I've sailed and most of my adjustments are made with the traveler. I've always wanted a wheel and a more livable boat and now I have both; but for anyone that has followed my many posts, you can see that that the old saying, "be careful what you wish for" applies to me. :-) Even though the boat has taken some getting used to and requires way more effort than my last two P-26's, I wouldn't even consider going back. I do have to say, thank goodness for this forum and its members' extensive knowledge and willingness to help with every one of my seemingly inane questions. I hope that as I continue to learn more about this boat, I am able to offer the help that was so freely given to me. Sincerely, Michael --- In ic...@yahoogroups. com, "Mark Robertson" <mrobertson@ ...> wrote: > > I have a mid boom sheeting and a wheel on my 81 and it is indeed a pain to > singlehand. > > >>> "Bob" <kniggit713@ ...> 11/30/2009 12:10 AM >>> > > Hi Chris, > > ...and you just opened the other C27 worm can...Mid-boom vs. end-boom > sheeting. > > With mid boom sheeting you lose the mechanical advantage created by the boom, > which must be made up with a more complex block system. That in turn creates > more drag when trimming and easing the main, which is often overcome with the > use of a winch. About the only advantage to mid-boom sheeting is it clears > the cocpit. But that puts it out of reach of the helmsperson. I cannot > imagine how anyone can single hand a C27 with a wheel and mid-boom sheeting > effectivly. > > IMHO the early C27's were designed to be sailed, but were changed due to > market pressure, to be better dock yachts. > > Bob Stockley > Sundance #2436 > > --- In ic...@yahoogroups. com, Chris Mitchell <chrismitchell45@ > wrote: > > > > Hello all, this is my first post and I'm glad to have your expertise. > > > > I just bought a C27 that came with a wheel which I have always wanted. > > However, it also has end boom sheeting which doesn't leave much room > > between the sheet and the wheel also the in-board has been converted to an > > outboard which makes steering opposite of the engine whereas the tiller > > would mimic the engine. So, considering the way my boat is configured I > > would rather have a tiller than the wheel, as it stands now I will spend > > the $600 extra to change to mid-boom sheeting which will make things much > > more comfortable. > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: Dave Robinson <canoe@> > > To: ic...@yahoogroups. com > > Sent: Sun, November 29, 2009 1:59:12 PM > > Subject: Re: [IC27A] Re: Wheel steering > > > > > > Take heart, there are many Catalina 30's with tillers, and they're > > pretty decent boats too! > > Dave Robinson > > Peregrine > > 1978 Catalina 27 #3695 > > QCYC, Toronto > > > > Sailing > > "The fine art of getting wet and being sick while slowly going nowhere" > > Albert Eistein > > > > On 29-Nov-09, at 2:40 AM, russell.ken@ comcast.net wrote: > > > > > I know you will all think I'm nuts. But I've been sailing for 25 > > > years, boats from 8 feet to 45 feet. I have an inboard 27 with > > > tiller steering. I love tiller steering. I've sailed many boats with > > > wheel steering and I prefer the tiller hands-down. You can feel the > > > water; the feedback about what is happening under the boat is right > > > in your hand. You get none of that feeling from a wheel. A wheel is > > > in the way in a small cockpit and takes up too much room, it's hard > > > to move around it. In the rainy northwest, I can hold the tiller and > > > be sitting in the front of the cockpit, under the dodger. I stay dry > > > in the rain and I'm sheltered from the wind and the spray. You can't > > > do that with a wheel, you sit in the rain and the spray and wind are > > > constantly in your face. I have an autopilot for the tiller when I > > > want to use it. I can't think of a single reason to prefer a wheel > > > over a tiller. I'm thinking of moving up to a 30 in the next year > > > and about the only thing that makes me reluctant to do so is the > > > fact that I will probably not find a 30 with a tiller. > > > > > > Gentle winds and calm seas to you all! > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
