You can get a water heater leak detector alarm at Home Depot that will do  
the job.
 
 
In a message dated 4/6/2010 6:27:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

 
 
 
I just noticed that in the WM catalog they have a "High Water  Bilge Alarm" 
for $57.99. 
 
Dick Schmidt
Greenville, NC


--- On Mon, 4/5/10, Judith Blumhorst, DC  <[email protected]> wrote:



From:  Judith Blumhorst, DC <[email protected]>
Subject:  Re: [IC27A] bilge pump check valve
To:  [email protected]:
Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 6:11  PM


 
 
 
My previous post wasn't clear...  sorry.  My kid  is home today and 
distracting me...  
 
I do have a check valve installed on the small pump RuleMate 500  in the 
small keel stubby.  The vavle keeps water from flowing  back into the stubby.  
That pump is intended to handle only a  very small volumes of water.  I 
don't care if small diameter  hoses and a check vavle reduce its capacity.
 
There is no check valve on the main bilge pump, which has 1.5  inch hoses 
on it.  It's a manual pump. 
 
There is also a bilge alarm with an activator switch in the  engine 
compartment.  If the water gets up that high, the alarm  goes off and annoys 
the 
crap out of everybody nearby.  
 
That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.... unless I remember  something 
else later....
 
Judy B
I wish I were out at my boat today instead of fixing the  irrigation system 
at home....


 
____________________________________
 From: "Judith Blumhorst,  DC" <drju...@blumhorst. com>
To: ic...@yahoogroups.  com
Sent: Mon, April  5, 2010 2:48:49 PM
Subject: Re: [IC27A] bilge pump  check valve


 
 
John makes an important point.  Check valves in hoses from  bilge pumps are 
not a good idea....  
 
....but I've got one in the C27 keel stubby.  I've got an  itty-bitty 
RuleMate *automatic* pump in there to keep the keel sump  dry. It HAS to be 
small 
to fit in there.   The Rule  Mates turn on for a half second every 2.5 
minutes.  If they  pump "senses" water, they pump.  If it don't sense  water, 
it 
shuts down.  Saves  battery  power.    

The RuleMate 500 only pumps 360 gallons per hour with a  3-4 foot lift.  
That's 6 gallons a minute.  It is not  inteneded to be a heavy lifter.  It's 
for use at the  dock.   
 
If the little pump in the keel sump water gets  overwhelmed, a VERY LOUD 
and VERY ANNOYING alarm goes off,  activated by a float switch located on the 
floor of the engine  compartment,  I hope someone (neighbor or marina  
staff) hears it and saves my boat from sinking at the dock.   


The BIG bilge pump in my boat opens into the engine  compartment.  It 
doesn't have a check valve in it.  It is a  manual, not electric, Whale manual 
pump.  It's a through bulk  heak model, the "Gusher".  It pumps an honest 14  
gallons per MINUTE with 1.5 inch diameter hoses, assuming a 1 meter  lift.  
It's virtually un-cloggable.  It doesn't care  if the electrical supply 
craps out.   I'm counting  on THAT to save MY butt if I get a real leak 
somewhere  in the boat. 
 
You can see pics of the installation at
_http://www.blumhors t.com/catalina27  /cockpit- remodelling. htm_ 
(http://www.blumhorst.com/catalina27/cockpit-remodelling.htm) 
 
Remember that an electric bilge pump is only as good as the power  
source....   if the battery runs down, or something shorts  out, it's not gonna 
work.
 
Fair  winds, 
Judy  B

 
____________________________________
 From: John Oppenheimer  <[email protected]>
To: ic...@yahoogroups.  com
Sent: Mon, April  5, 2010 9:42:30 AM
Subject: [IC27A] bilge pump check  valve

You may want to check with Rule and find if things  have changed.

John

-------- Original Message  --------
Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: storage and gas mileage  & bilge pump check
valve
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 08:33:10  -0500
From: John Oppenheimer <[email protected]_ 
(http://us.mc450.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]) >
To: _catalina27-talk@  membe rclicks. com_ 
(http://us.mc450.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]) 

Very bad things can happen with a bilge  pump check valve. There have
been some sad stories in both the  Catalina Mainsheet magazine and
various threads on the various C27  e-mail groups.

So, if you are using something similar to a rule  2000, like I have:

Rule had the following FAQ before their web  site was changed.

Q: Can I install a check valve on the  discharge of my bilge pump to keep
water from running back through  the pump?

A: No. A check valve should NOT be installed in the  discharge line. As
submersible pumps create very little discharge  pressure, they may not be
able to overcome the resistance or weight  of the column of water or
weight of the check valve flapper or  poppet itself. The pump may
therefore have an airlocked  condition.


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