On my '86 with I think the stock cockpit electrical panel I have a keyed on/off ignition switch - turn it on and the oil pressure warning buzzer sounds. Then two momentary push to hold buttons, one for the glow plug, one for the starter. I hold the glow plug down 20 seconds, then release and push the starter. At at times due to low battery I've been grateful to be able to release the glow plug before engaging the starter. Works well for me...

The additions you (Ralph) describe, starter in the engine compartment and local bump switch for bleeding sound interesting. I actually have a dread of ever having to bleed fuel lines in rough seas. Where did you route/mount them? Pictures?

John Harker    C27    Prana    #6261   Santa Cruz

On 7/24/2010 5:33 PM, Ralph Ahseln wrote:

Phil,
The cockpit gauge panel on my particular 1984 model, has the standard KEYED... Off/Gauges on/Start (momentary) rotary switch.
Next to it, on the right hand, is the Glow Plug Toggle switch.
I had considered changing to a Keyed switch that has both Start and Glow plug, but it was, I felt at the time, an unnecessary expense. I've since come to appreciate the ability to either push down or pull up on the Glow Plug switch. As example, I can use the toe of my shoe to push down while I'm doing other things. LOL Another "modification" that I have done and would recommend, is a parallel switch down below (inside of the engine compartment).
I can start the engine at that location as well as up in the cockpit.
That, and a small solenoid also parallel to the cockpit switch, with a two position switch.. allows Cockpit/Compartment/Battery Direct to the Starter Solenoid, Giving several options for starting. They are all Fused of course. I've also added a "Bump" switch to the electric fuel pump.. useful when having to BLEED the fuel line. All this allows many options for dealing with engine/fuel issues. And were simple installations.
Other options to the engine are
Regards,
Ralph Ahseln
"Oblio"
Lying: Portland OR

*From:* Phil Agur <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Saturday, July 24, 2010 11:51 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* RE: [IC27A] I'm all aglow and it ain't the rum.

Ralph,

What do you have for a starter switch?

Reading this made me think about how the C270 panel works. The key ignition switch has OFF-ON-(Glow Plug -- momentary) and then a starter button.

*Phil Agur* */s/v/** Wing Tip* <http://www.catalina27.org/public_pages/profile270.htm>
C270 LE #184            MMSI 366901790

*From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ralph Ahseln
*Sent:* Saturday, July 24, 2010 10:44 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [IC27A] I'm all aglow and it ain't the rum.

Rob,

Since a Glow Plug is simply a Heating Element, There's not much that could be could be considered "Damage" done by running it longer than necessary. You probably just Shortened the Life of the heater. Like any "incandescent light bulb" it has a finite life.

A glow plug is one of those "forgotten" parts of the engine. One should carry a spare.

The good news is that they are easy to change out.

The more basic question I would ask is.. Why didn't you replace the Switch with an " Momentary " rather than a common On/Off.

Get rid of the On/Off.

I replaced mine with a Single Pole/Double Throw (SPDT) Momentary switch so I can hold the Bat Handle either UP or Down.

When released, it returns to the center OFF position.

An even better replacement switch , IMHO, would be a "Push to Make" Momentary. Similar to the Starter switch on many devices.

Of course.. Always use WATERPROOF switches..

Uniform Whisky,

Ralph Ahseln

"Oblio"

Lying: Portland OR

*From:* RobAdkins <mailto:[email protected]>

*Sent:* Saturday, July 24, 2010 9:52 AM

*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

*Subject:* [IC27A] I'm all aglow and it ain't the rum.

hi all,

after replacing a faulty glow plug switch on my instrument panel with a fixed position toggle switch i've become suddenly faulty myself in remembering to turn the darn thing off when motoring. aarrgghh! am i doing any damage to anything other than smacking my forehead out of frustration?


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