> I'll try to get photos. I stand in front of my horse, rub the spot > with my carrot stick, middle of chest under the neck area, then go > through the phases and stand there waiting...
> When I try to get them to step back with the CS from the chest and > they don't, I walk towards them and lightly touch the same spot with > my hand and both horses will move back with no resistance. OK, for the heck of it, try this: take the carrot stick out of the picture. Practice a little backing with your hand. Then use your finger to ask. You can click and treat if you want, or say good boy, and pet / scratch. Then take a pen (or a very small stick, like a popsicle stick) and try it with the pen in your hand, only sticking out an inch. Does it make a difference? If so, what is the difference to them? Is it the feeling of stiff substance? Possible they like to have a "feel" coming from living thing to living thing, and may be aren't aware of how to respond to tools yet. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
