>>>  Thought if I'd go to a 19" I would have more room, but now listening to
everyone saying it is big, I don't know. I mostly would like to try it
instead of a cheap bareback pad
that seem to slide too much.


I really don't like the idea of a Bob Marshall saddle in a seat size that
big on any Icelandic that I've seen.  The BMSS get REALLY long in the larger
seat sizes.


>>> Karen, you mentioned once that your husband is a bit more solid built,
and rides in a treeless, what size saddle does he use?


He hasn't ridden in a treed western saddle in so long that I'm not sure his
size, but I'd guess he'd need at least a 17", maybe bigger.  His last treed
saddle was an 18" Free N Easy Flex Panel saddle.  Before that, an 18" Duett
brand dressage model and it was really too snug for him.  He now rides in a
Sensation Trail model now, standard seat length.  Unlike the Bob Marshall,
the Sensation has no rigid parts, so we don't have to worry about loin rubs
or his weight being transferred to the back of the rigid cantle.  He's free
to balance his weight where the horse's conformation demands, even though he
is a big rider.  (He still needs to ride a decent-sized, strongly-built
Icelandic - no saddle will make him seem like a small rider!)


>>>> Also, if a treeless saddle only weighs about 10lbs and is flexible,
would it really cause that much of a problem if it sits further back over
the loin, as long as the rider sits balanced in the centre?


I'd say that's pretty much true...EXCEPT for the treeless saddles that have
rigid pommels and cantles. The Sensations are flexible throughout, but some
treeless brands have notable rigid parts.


This is key: while I thought my old BMSS was fairly comfy, and Sina did
pretty well in it for a while, all BMSS's have a rigid pommel and cantle and
they can't be removed.  There are some newer style treeless saddles similar
to the BMSS (Torsion, Barefoot, etc.) that have rigid pommels and cantles,
BUT their pommels and cantles zip open, and you can remove the hard pieces.
That's exactly what I've done with my Torsions, and re-stuffed them with the
pillow-stuffing stuff you get in the craft department at Wal-Mart. If you do
that, you eliminate the rigid pieces, but it still gives a surprising amount
of shape to the saddle, to keep them from rolling.  (If you take the time to
learn to mount carefully.)   That isn't an option with the BMSS's.


Even though I have to be grateful for the BMSS being one of the first
treeless saddle options available, a lot of people now consider them to be
"part-treed" compared to saddles like the Sensations.


Did any of this help, or did I make it worse?


Karen
Karen Thomas
Wingate, NC



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