Iya memang x86 makanya bisa dual OS Android & Windows On 25 Apr 2016 10:34 p.m., "FX William Riyanto" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Nope, intel di android itu x86. Bisa liat ss di bawah > On Apr 22, 2016 8:13 AM, "MR Raditya" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Bener om, Intel prosesor di Android itu Intel sudah bayar lisensi nya >> ARM. CMIIW >> >> Raditya >> On Apr 21, 2016 8:51 PM, "Darma Suyoga" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Sekarang bukannya mereka sudah buat processor buat smartphone? >>> >>> Mungkin terlambat memulai ya.... Kalah saing >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, April 21, 2016, Fathi Nashrullah <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Kan emang udah, dengan XScale-nya. >>>> >>>> Cuman klo ngebandingin sama tawaran Apple buat bikin prosesornya >>>> iPhone, kayaknya kurang pas juga. Coba cek, iPhone generasi pertama >>>> akhirnya pake prosesor buatan siapa? Trus sesignifikan apa perusahaan >>>> tersebut saat ini di dunia prosesor ARM? >>>> >>>> Kalau kata saya sih emang model bisnisnya Intel saat itu ngga sinkron >>>> dengan kecenderungan pasar. Mereka pengen ngembangin platform sendiri (x86 >>>> based) ketimbang membesarkan platform orang lain (ARM Holdings). Kalau >>>> kemudian mereka tergulung pasar, fenomenanya mirip sekali dengan Nokia yang >>>> keukeuh ngga mau pake platform orang (Android), sementara platformnya >>>> sendiri ternyata tak sehebat yang disangka. >>>> >>>> FN >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 4:52 PM, Arya Mada <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> kalo dulu bener kejadian Intel bikin procie mobile seperti SnapDragon, >>>>> mungkin Qualcomm udah gulung tikar sejak lama ya :) >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Alvin Tedjasukmana < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <http://www.linkedin.com/shareArticle?mini=true&source=Vox&summary=Intel+didn%27t+take+the+market+for+smartphone+chips+seriously+until+it+was+too+late.&title=Intel+made+a+huge+mistake+10+years+ago.+Now+12%2C000+workers+are+paying+the%26nbsp%3Bprice.&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vox.com%2F2016%2F4%2F20%2F11463818%2Fintel-iphone-mobile-revolution> >>>>>> >>>>>> Artikel yg lumayan menarik buat dibaca, monggo.... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> June 6, 2005, seemed to be a triumphant moment for Intel. The >>>>>> chipmaker was already dominating the market for processors that powered >>>>>> Windows-based PCs. Then Steve Jobs took the stage at Apple's World Wide >>>>>> Developers Conference to announce that he was switching the main Windows >>>>>> alternative, Macintosh computers, to Intel chips as well. The >>>>>> announcement >>>>>> cemented Intel's status as the leading company of the PC era. >>>>>> >>>>>> There was just one problem: The PC era was about to end. Apple was >>>>>> already working on the iPhone, which would usher in the modern smartphone >>>>>> era. Intel turned down an opportunity >>>>>> <http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/05/paul-otellinis-intel-can-the-company-that-built-the-future-survive-it/275825/> >>>>>> to provide the processor for the iPhone, believing that Apple was >>>>>> unlikely >>>>>> to sell enough of them to justify the development costs. >>>>>> >>>>>> Oops. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, Intel announced that it was laying off 12,000 employees >>>>>> <http://www.oregonlive.com/silicon-forest/index.ssf/2016/04/intel_quarterly_results.html>, >>>>>> 11 percent of its workforce, the latest sign of the company's struggle to >>>>>> adapt to the post-PC world. Intel still isn't a significant player in the >>>>>> mobile market — iPhones, iPads, and Android-based phones and tablets >>>>>> mostly >>>>>> use chips based on a competing standard called ARM. >>>>>> >>>>>> The company is still making solid profits — it just announced a $2 >>>>>> billion profit >>>>>> <http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/INTC/1917929754x0x886646/374B039B-F62C-4429-99C8-131CA7DE75DF/Earnings_Release_Q1_2016_final.pdf> >>>>>> for the first quarter of 2016. But the company's growth has stalled, and >>>>>> Wall Street is getting worried about its future. >>>>>> >>>>>> Obviously, Intel made a mistake by missing out on the iPhone >>>>>> business. Intel's error in judgment is a classic example of what business >>>>>> guru Clay Christensen calls "disruptive innovation." The term disruption >>>>>> has become so overused in the technology world that it's sometimes >>>>>> treated >>>>>> as a joke. But Christensen gave it a more precise meaning that fits >>>>>> Intel's >>>>>> situation perfectly: a cheap, simple, and less profitable technology that >>>>>> gradually erodes the market for a more established technology. >>>>>> >>>>>> Intel is just the latest in long line of companies that have failed >>>>>> to effectively deal with this kind of disruptive threat. >>>>>> Smartphones are based on a different chip standard than PCs >>>>>> >>>>>> Intel invented a chip standard called x86 that was chosen for the IBM >>>>>> PC in 1981 and became the standard for Windows-based PCs generally. As >>>>>> the >>>>>> PC market soared in the 1980s and 1990s, Intel grew with it. >>>>>> >>>>>> The key to success in the PC business was performance. Chips with >>>>>> more computing power could run more complex applications, complete tasks >>>>>> more quickly, and run more applications at the same time. During the >>>>>> 1990s, >>>>>> Intel and its rivals raced to increase their chips' megahertz ratings — a >>>>>> measure of how many steps the chips could perform in a second. >>>>>> >>>>>> One thing these early chipmakers *didn't* care about was power >>>>>> consumption. Higher-performance chips often consumed more energy, but >>>>>> this >>>>>> didn't matter because most PCs were desktop models plugged into the wall. >>>>>> Even laptops had large batteries and could be plugged in most of the >>>>>> time. >>>>>> >>>>>> But this became a problem in the late 2000s, when the market began to >>>>>> shift to smartphones and tablets. These devices had smaller batteries (to >>>>>> keep the weight down), and users wanted to use them all day on a single >>>>>> charge. Existing x86 chips were a poor fit for these new applications. >>>>>> >>>>>> Instead, these companies turned to a standard called ARM. Created by >>>>>> a once-obscure British company >>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture>, it was designed >>>>>> from the ground up for low-power mobile uses. In the mid-2000s, ARM chips >>>>>> weren't nearly as powerful as high-end chips from Intel, but they >>>>>> consumed >>>>>> a lot less power, which was important for smartphones from Apple and >>>>>> BlackBerry. >>>>>> >>>>>> Even better, the ARM architecture is designed for customization. ARM >>>>>> licenses its design to other companies such as Qualcomm and Samsung, >>>>>> which >>>>>> make the actual chips. That provides flexibility that allows smartphone >>>>>> makers to combine a number of different functions on a single chip. And >>>>>> packing a bunch of functions — like data storage and image processing — >>>>>> onto one chip helps to keep power consumption down. >>>>>> Wikipedia / ARM <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_Holdings> ARM >>>>>> chip sales, in billions. >>>>>> >>>>>> Today, ARM chips totally dominate the mobile device business. iPhones >>>>>> and iPads run on a chip called the A9 (and predecessors such as the A8 >>>>>> and >>>>>> A7) that are based on the ARM platform, designed by Apple, and >>>>>> manufactured >>>>>> by chipmakers like Samsung <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung> >>>>>> and TSMC <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TSMC>. Most Android-based >>>>>> phones run on ARM-based chips from Samsung, Qualcomm, and other ARM >>>>>> chipmakers. >>>>>> The mobile revolution is leaving Intel behind >>>>>> >>>>>> Intel had not just one but two opportunities to become a major player >>>>>> in the mobile chip market. One was the opportunity to bid on Apple's >>>>>> iPhone >>>>>> business. The other was its ownership of XScale, an ARM-based chipmaker >>>>>> Intel owned until it sold it for $600 million >>>>>> <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/06/27/intel_sells_xscale/> in >>>>>> 2006. >>>>>> >>>>>> Intel sold XScale because it wanted to double down on the x86 >>>>>> architecture that had made it so successful. Intel was working on a >>>>>> low-power version of x86 chips called Atom, and it believed that selling >>>>>> ARM chips would signal a lack of commitment to the Atom platform. >>>>>> >>>>>> But Atom chips didn't gain much traction. Intel has made a lot of >>>>>> progress >>>>>> <http://www.androidauthority.com/arm-vs-x86-key-differences-explained-568718/> >>>>>> improving the power efficiency of its Atom chips. But ARM-based >>>>>> chipmakers >>>>>> are experts at building low-power chips, having focused on that task for >>>>>> more than a decade. So they had the early advantage. And at this point, >>>>>> ARM >>>>>> has a huge share of the market. That gives them all of the advantages — >>>>>> more engineers, better software — that come with being a dominant >>>>>> platform. >>>>>> Intel's decline is a classic story of disruptive innovation >>>>>> >>>>>> On one level, you can say that Intel just got unlucky and backed the >>>>>> wrong horse. The chipmaker could have tried harder to win Apple's iPhone >>>>>> contract, and it could have bet on its XScale ARM subsidiary instead of >>>>>> trying to create Atom processors. But it chose not to. >>>>>> >>>>>> But on a deeper level it's not surprising that Intel took the path it >>>>>> did, again because of Christensen's theory of disruptive innovation >>>>>> <http://www.amazon.com/The-Innovators-Dilemma-Revolutionary-Business/dp/0062060244> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> Intel's basic problem was that the mobile chip market didn't seem >>>>>> profitable enough to be worth the trouble. Intel had built a >>>>>> sophisticated >>>>>> business around the PC chip. Its employees were experts at building, >>>>>> selling, distributing, and supporting PC chips. This was a lucrative >>>>>> business — often Intel could charge several hundred dollars for its >>>>>> high-end chips — and the company was organized around the assumption that >>>>>> each chip sale would generate significant revenue and profits. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mobile chips were different. In some cases, an entire mobile device >>>>>> could cost less than the price of a high-end Intel processor. With many >>>>>> companies selling ARM chips, prices were low and profit margins were >>>>>> slim. >>>>>> It would have been a struggle for Intel to slim down enough to turn a >>>>>> profit in this market. >>>>>> >>>>>> And in any event, Intel was making plenty of money selling high-end >>>>>> PC chips. There didn't seem to be much reason to fight for a market where >>>>>> the opportunity just didn't seem that big. >>>>>> >>>>>> What this analysis missed, of course, was that the mobile market >>>>>> would eventually become vastly larger than the PC market. ARM-based >>>>>> chipmakers might make a much smaller profit *per chip,* but the >>>>>> market was destined to grow to many billions of chips per year. Even a >>>>>> small profit per chip multiplied by billions of chips could add up to a >>>>>> big >>>>>> opportunity. >>>>>> >>>>>> Meanwhile, Intel had to worry that jumping wholeheartedly into >>>>>> low-power mobile chips would undermine demand for its more lucrative >>>>>> desktop chips. What if companies started buying Intel's cheap mobile >>>>>> chips >>>>>> and putting them in laptops? That could hurt Intel's bottom line more >>>>>> than >>>>>> the added mobile revenue would help it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Obviously, Intel's leadership now recognizes that they made a >>>>>> mistake. They're now so far behind that it's going to be a struggle to >>>>>> gain >>>>>> a foothold in the new market. And as cheap mobile chips get more and more >>>>>> powerful, we can expect more and more companies to put them into low-end >>>>>> laptop and desktop computers, eroding demand for Intel's more expensive >>>>>> and >>>>>> power-hungry chips. >>>>>> Chipmakers are doing to Intel what Intel once did to Digital >>>>>> Equipment Corporation >>>>>> >>>>>> Ironically, Intel is now suffering the same fate that it inflicted on >>>>>> an earlier generation of computing innovators three decades ago. In the >>>>>> 1980s, there was a thriving community of "minicomputer" makers led by a >>>>>> company called the Digital Equipment Corporation. >>>>>> >>>>>> These washing machine–size minicomputers were only "mini" compared to >>>>>> the room-size mainframe computers that preceded them, and they cost tens >>>>>> of >>>>>> thousands of dollars. >>>>>> >>>>>> Early PCs based on Intel chips were referred to as microcomputers, >>>>>> and companies like DEC dismissed them as toys. They did this for exactly >>>>>> the same reasons Intel dismissed the mobile market — selling a $2,000 PC >>>>>> was a lot less profitable than selling a $50,000 minicomputer, and DEC >>>>>> didn't expect PCs to be a big enough market to be worth the effort. >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course, that turned out to be totally wrong. The PC market turned >>>>>> out to be vastly larger than the minicomputer market, just as the mobile >>>>>> market is now much larger than the PC market. But by the time this became >>>>>> clear, it was too late. DEC and most of its peers were forced out of >>>>>> business by the end of the 1990s. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sumber: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.vox.com/2016/4/20/11463818/intel-iphone-mobile-revolution >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> =========== >>>>>> Saksikan drone Telkomsel dari Sabang hingga Merauke melalui video >>>>>> streaming interaktif selama 30 hari di >> tsel.me/elangnusa >>>>>> #ElangNusa >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------- >>>>>> Toko Headphone & Earphone Terlengkap dan Terbaru >>>>>> Kunjungi >> http://bassaudio.net >>>>>> ---------------------- >>>>>> Kontak Admin, Twitter @agushamonangan >>>>>> ----------------------- >>>>>> FB Groups : https://www.facebook.com/groups/android.or.id >>>>>> >>>>>> Aturan Umum ID-ANDROID >> goo.gl/mL1mBT >>>>>> >>>>>> ========== >>>>>> --- >>>>>> Anda menerima pesan ini karena berlangganan grup "[id-android] >>>>>> Indonesian Android Community" di Google Grup. >>>>>> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup >>>>>> ini, kirim 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