On 8/5/23 9:05 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 2:46 PM Michael Thomas <[email protected]> wrote:

    Well, for starters ARC doesn't have broad deployment. But the
    author doesn't say why ARC is needed or relevant. That is the
    point here. *All* changes need to be justified including any
    imported mechanisms. The less rat holes the better. Same with the
    mailing list modification draft. Why is that even relevant?


With respect to ARC: There's a difference between asking for justification and demanding that the discussion be stopped before it even starts.  One of those is not okay.

Ok, justify it. Even the author says ARC brings nothing to the table. That is not OK. Peddle the ARC agenda in a more appropriate venue.


With respect to the MLM draft: Since this is the only IETF list that covers DKIM specifically, that makes it a reasonable venue for raising DKIM-related ideas that might exceed the charter.  I would agree that this WG shouldn't take up any DKIM topics not related to the replay problem, but I don't see an issue with announcing in this venue that you have an idea and invite discussion off-list or in some other venue for as long as this list is allocated to an active working group.

By all means, let's make this a cesspool of irrelevant junk. Especially for junk that clearly has no clue about the history of DKIM.

Mike
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