I'm looking forward to engage in consense finding discussions. At my dayjob at 
GMX/Web.de/Mail.com I already reserved engineering time for the coming months 
to work on inter-op testing of this.

/ Tobias Herkula 

________________________________________
From: Bron Gondwana <brong=40fastmailteam....@dmarc.ietf.org>
Sent: 07 November 2024 01:26
To: ietf-dkim@ietf.org
Cc: Wei Chuang; Richard Clayton
Subject: [Ietf-dkim] PROPOSAL: reopen this working group and work on DKIM2

Hi All,

I prepared presentations about DKIM2 for two places at IETF121 - ALLDISPATCH 
and MAILMAINT.  Slides are here:

ALLDISPATCH: 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/121/materials/slides-121-alldispatch-dkim2-00
MAILMAINT: 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/121/materials/slides-121-mailmaint-dkim2-00

In both places (though I didn't get to present at ALLDISPATCH, I still did a 
quick shout-out and had some hallway discussions afterwards) there was interest 
in this work and generally positive comments.

This working group closed down again last year, after there was limited 
engagement on the drafts that founded our last charter - however if you look at 
the design in this new proposal, it echos many of the ideas in those drafts.  
The difference is that this time there's energy, and we've engaged many of the 
biggest mailbox providers and senders in the world in this work.

We have been meeting in a private context, every week, for the past few months, 
to iterate towards a design that people think they could implement - and where 
we believe we have a design that's ready to ask the IETF to re-open this work, 
and we can have confidence that there are people willing to do that work.  The 
group is composed of engineers who will implement and test this proposal, and 
who have promised to come over here and engage in the IETF process.

I think now is an ideal time to re-start this work at the IETF.  The design is 
still evolving and there's plenty of space for an IETF working group to improve 
it further, yet it's also had enough design work put in by people with 
operational experience that we have implementers who think they can make it 
work at scale.

We have a draft charter here:  https://notes.ietf.org/YGynIPpYS7yqg5G7ZeSQeA

Cheers,

Bron.





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  Bron Gondwana, CEO, Fastmail Pty Ltd
  br...@fastmailteam.com



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