--- Scott Kitterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I guess that depends on exactly what we are talking about.  Some 
> messages are pretty well inherently abusive while others it depends on 
> the context.
> 
> If it's a message that has some inherent characteristic that makes it 
> abusive (it's fradulent for example), then going to the source makes 
> perfect sense.
> 
> If it's a message that is not inherently abusive, but unwanted by a 
> particular recipient, then I think it's not so clear.  Was the message 
> delivered to the recipient that didn't want it because of an action of 
> the sender, the receiver, or some third party?  The signature tells you 
> nothing about that.

Sure. But none of your scenarios implicate a forwarding agent or suggest that
you'd want to take action against a forwarding agent.

My point is simple. All this discussion about forwarding agents signing is moot
as forwarding agents are rarely a party that a recipient will want to take
action against.

Ergo, signing by forwarding agents is not core to DKIM. Interesting, sure.
Core, no.


Mark.
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