--On 23 May 2010 15:24:51 +0200 Eliot Lear <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Dave & John, > > I read both of you as actually agreeing in principle. My issue was > whether a signature would confer more authority upon a message than > perhaps it deserved, and how would an MLM behave in terms of its > incentives. In thinking about this, I'd have to say that you're both > right, that either the MLM is taking responsibility for the message or > it is not. There may yet be a grey area for very sophisticated or > experimental MLMs (like "Hmm... SpamAssassin medium score; maybe let it > through but don't sign"), I don't see the value of that. By forwarding the mail, they are -in practice- taking responsibility. By signing it, they're simply telling the world that they've done so. I'd think it dishonest of a list manager to do this kind of selective signing. > but then they don't need a BCP; we need them > to publish the results of the experiment ;-) > > The only thing that leaves are non-participant MLMs and there really > isn't much to be done with them. > > Eliot > > On 5/22/10 7:50 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote: >> >> On 5/17/2010 10:08 PM, John Levine wrote: >>> The signature means that this message really truly >>> came from the mailing list >> >> Actually, DKIM makes no statement about authorship or even actors in the >> handling sequence. It merely says that that verified domain is willing >> to take "some" responsibility for the message. >> >> The more we slip into loose references to authorship or operational >> origins, the more we wind up having to dig ourselves out of semantic >> mismatches later. >> >> If there is a desire and need to have the semantic be "came from the >> mailing list" then there needs to be a mailing list equivalent to ADSP, >> which correlates a DKIM signature with the domain in a List-ID header >> field. >> >> >> d/ > _______________________________________________ > NOTE WELL: This list operates according to > http://mipassoc.org/dkim/ietf-list-rules.html -- Ian Eiloart IT Services, University of Sussex 01273-873148 x3148 For new support requests, see http://www.sussex.ac.uk/its/help/ _______________________________________________ NOTE WELL: This list operates according to http://mipassoc.org/dkim/ietf-list-rules.html
