On 5/13/11 8:12 PM, Alessandro Vesely wrote:

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>>     "In such cases where the submission fails that test, the receiver or
>>      verifier SHOULD discard the message but return an SMTP success code,
>>      i.e. accept the message but drop it without delivery.  An SMTP
>>      rejection of such mail instead of the requested discard action
>>      causes more harm than good."
>>
>> I would remove the SHOULD as the argument (second sentence) is
>> clear.  The usage of the SHOULD raises the question about whether
>> this is a SMTP receiver action and whether it is appropriate to
>> create a black hole (silent drop of message).
> This should have been explained more clearly in RFC 5617.  Perhaps, we
> should say that "discardable" means "droppable" in general?

The problem what 'discardable' means has been introduced in RFC5617 and 
I don't think draft-ietf-dkim-mailingslists-10.txt has to 'fix' that 
problem. The meaning of 'discardable' has been discussed on this list at 
least two times (see for example 
http://mipassoc.org/pipermail/ietf-dkim/2008q1/009557.html) and this has 
AFAIK not resulted in one unambiguous conclusion. Furthermore, as it's 
not primarily an MLM issue (but an ADSP issue), I don't think we should 
re-open the discussion again. Don't get me wrong, I agree with you that 
it's important to define what we mean with discardable, but not here, 
not now.

I'd propose to put this item ('writeup a definition of 'discardable') on 
the to-do list of a successor of RFC5617, if there ever will be one. Or 
on another future 'policy' document.

/rolf

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