Better question:  How many households are there in the world on the
Internet?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Parkinson, Jonathan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 10:23 AM
> To:   'Rakers, Jason'; 'Dennis Glatting'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      RE: Addresses and ports and taxes -- oh my!
> 
> Err I think that would take some thinking about ? How many houses are
> there
> in the world!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rakers, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 2:41 PM
> To: 'Dennis Glatting'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Addresses and ports and taxes -- oh my!
> 
> 
> When household appliances begin becoming IP addressable, I think we will
> see
> a move towards assigning an Internet IP address per household (much like
> today's street address).  The household will perform NAT for all devices
> within (one street address can house many people, not just one).
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:       Dennis Glatting
> [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent:       Thursday, August 03, 2000 8:32 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:    Addresses and ports and taxes -- oh my!
> > 
> > 
> > I've been thinking about the issue of ARIN fees from last night's
> plenary
> > and arrived at two philosophical questions.
> > 
> > I run my business out of my home and my DSL link is an important part of
> > my business. About six months ago my ISP started charging me a $20/mo.
> fee
> > for my /27 because "ARIN is now charging us." I am unhappy about this
> fee
> > but I understand its motivation -- conversation of IP space, though I
> > believe fees do not really effect the true wasters of this space and the
> > fee, or as it is called in some circles, a tax, is probably misguided.
> > Nonetheless, with IPv6, I naively hoped, until last night, the
> > conservation of space issues would go away, and thus the fees. Big duh!
> > 
> > If we look at today's marketing hype and think forward a bit there is a
> > thrust to "Internet enable" appliances, such as dryers, ovens, and
> > stereos. Assuming ARIN fees persist, my first philosophical question is
> > whether any consumer of these appliances MUST periodically (e.g.,
> monthly)
> > drop coins in the ARIN fountain?
> > 
> > Thinking laterally, the reserved port space (<1024) is tight. Using the
> > same IP space conversation logic, should fees be charged to conserve
> port
> > space? If so, my second philosophiocal question is what is our role, as
> > protocol designers and IETF volunteers, in creating, what is slowly
> > becoming, an Internet consumption taxation model?
> > 
> > Imagine for a moment the effect of a fee against the allocation or use
> of
> > port 80 or 443, maybe even port 25 or 53.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 

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