On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Joel Jaeggli <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Jul 1, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Kurt Zeilenga wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jul 1, 2011, at 10:10 AM, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
>>
>>> the ietf has some of the more heavily and consistently moderated mailing 
>>> lists on the planet.
>>
>> but how well does the IETF do in not producing email in response to SPAM?   
>> Seems the IETF generates a lot of backscatter, and aside from scattering 
>> this to individual boxes all over the Internet, it's going to scatter into 
>> various spam traps… and that's likely to cause a listing in any services 
>> that use spam traps.  Those who implement spam traps do put filters on them, 
>> so that commonly produced bounces don't cause listing, but it's had to deal 
>> with the many custom bounce messages (especially ones which don't use 
>> standard headers to indicate they are auto-generated).
>>
>> Has anyone examined all the various sorts of auto-generated messages the 
>> IETF produces to make sure they are reasonably detected as auto-generated 
>> messages?
>>
>> That should be part of us doing our part to help deal with SPAM.
>
> I watch all the bounces for about half a dozen of  the high traffic lists.
>

Can you (or anyone else) confirm the IETF status ? DId we get off of
the blacklist?

Regards
Marshall

> One of the more annoying things I see is bounces from subscribed members due 
> to the sender being listed somewhere. when this happens with frequency those 
> particapants that bounce messages to mailman get ejects from the list... We 
> don't have the luxury of just ejecting someone from list because the source 
> ip they are using today is listed in spamhaus but if you recject enough mail 
> from us you're going to fall off.
>
> Honestly I think the backscatter is frankly rather low as a purportion of net 
> volume but the volume is large.
>
> A busy day on the ietf discuss list bursts out to a few hundred thousand 
> messages however, for a single list.
>
>> -- Kurt
>>
>
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