On 10/5/11 22:24 , Marshall Eubanks wrote: > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Joel Jaeggli <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Jul 1, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Kurt Zeilenga wrote: >> >>> >>> On Jul 1, 2011, at 10:10 AM, Joel Jaeggli wrote: >>> >>>> the ietf has some of the more heavily and consistently moderated mailing >>>> lists on the planet. >>> >>> but how well does the IETF do in not producing email in response to SPAM? >>> Seems the IETF generates a lot of backscatter, and aside from scattering >>> this to individual boxes all over the Internet, it's going to scatter into >>> various spam traps… and that's likely to cause a listing in any services >>> that use spam traps. Those who implement spam traps do put filters on >>> them, so that commonly produced bounces don't cause listing, but it's had >>> to deal with the many custom bounce messages (especially ones which don't >>> use standard headers to indicate they are auto-generated). >>> >>> Has anyone examined all the various sorts of auto-generated messages the >>> IETF produces to make sure they are reasonably detected as auto-generated >>> messages? >>> >>> That should be part of us doing our part to help deal with SPAM. >> >> I watch all the bounces for about half a dozen of the high traffic lists. >> > > Can you (or anyone else) confirm the IETF status ? DId we get off of > the blacklist?
I haven't seen 5XX errors indcating sorbs blocking since 10/2 so it's either fixed or mailman has booted all the users that are still bouncing messages. > Regards > Marshall > >> One of the more annoying things I see is bounces from subscribed members due >> to the sender being listed somewhere. when this happens with frequency those >> particapants that bounce messages to mailman get ejects from the list... We >> don't have the luxury of just ejecting someone from list because the source >> ip they are using today is listed in spamhaus but if you recject enough mail >> from us you're going to fall off. >> >> Honestly I think the backscatter is frankly rather low as a purportion of >> net volume but the volume is large. >> >> A busy day on the ietf discuss list bursts out to a few hundred thousand >> messages however, for a single list. >> >>> -- Kurt >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ietf mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf >> > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
