Going a bit over-the-top: is there an interaction between sex and sexual orientation? Can one count as the other?
On Mar 20, 2013, at 8:10 AM, Riccardo Bernardini <framefri...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Margaret Wasserman <m...@lilacglade.org> > wrote: > > Hi Stewart, > > On Mar 20, 2013, at 2:04 AM, Stewart Bryant <stbry...@cisco.com> wrote: > > Age > > Disability > > Gender reassignment > > Marriage and civil partnership > > Pregnancy and maternity > > Race > > Religion and belief > > Sex > > Sexual orientation > > The U.S. has a similar (although not identical) list, and it may vary a bit > state-by-state. > > > > If we are going to have an itemized list of diversity characteristics, we > > should not pick and choose, we should include the full list. > > While I certainly wouldn't suggest we start discriminating based on _any_ of > these factors, it is very difficult to measure our results in some of these > areas, as we do not collect this information from IETF attendees, nor do we > publish the age, disability status, gender status, marital status, religion > or sexual orientation of our I* members. > > I am not suggesting that we start collecting or publishing this information, > just saying that it makes it hard to tell whether our leadership is > reasonably representative of the community in some of these areas. > > > I would say that in this case we are almost surely automatically fair: while > one can suspect that gender or geographical origin could add a bias (even an > unwanted one), if I do not know the, say, sexual orientation of a candidate, > I cannot discriminate (even on a subconscious level) using that information. > > Also, I think there are some area where diversity is important to the IETF > that are not on this list, like geographic location, corporate affiliation > and industry segment (vendor, operator, researcher, etc.). > > Margaret > >
