On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 12:05 AM, Shakthi Kannan <[email protected]>wrote:

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> Hi,
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> --- On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 2:32 AM, amit kumar <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> | everybody does not have free internet .
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> plz revist the terms -- *viral ,globally shared and collaborative learning
*. It is better if you have internet connectivity, but if you do not have
internet connectivity the same thing can be done in group and shared way of
learning. We started LUG workshop just to test how and upto what level we
can collaborate and how we can more productive using this.

If you say, you do not have good teacher,,, I should say *u are not a good
student*. I expressed my primarily concerns on school children. The "base"
of a school child is not well, If he/she need tuition's at 1st class then
he/she will need forever. I am saying just study by yourself. I am saying,,
do not depends on teacher. Depends on you and collaborative group study
locally. Collaboration is one of primary ethics of study.
We need to build up a strong base level foundation in students.

after an unsuccessful attempt of IITJEE, I remembered in college days when I
was in first year, I started teaching (as teacher) for 11th and 12th class.
But every student in my district use to run away from first class of vector
algebra. the guy who just passed 10th *somehow* do not know basic of algebra
and equations, How can I teach such guys. In the whole district i was able
to find just 2 guys who can study at the IITlevel under me. The most
important thing we need to develop the ideals in the mind of student that
they should learn first and give the exam, otherwise getting 35 and study
ahead is just waste. a person who is weak in math at 10th will not be able
to cover math in 11th and 12th. So we need to focus on learning rather then
timely passing.

When I learned height and distance in lower class, I tried to measure actual
height of buildings. Do students have such practical thinking in his mind.?
Do you need teacher to give u assignments and then u will think for
practicles?
You can make microscope in less then 20 RS and everything is in book. Have u
tried ???
you may surprised to know , once I rejected to give my exam paper in BE ,
just because it was a important subject in GATE exam and I have not done its
study well !  Will we ever be able to develops such ideal in little minds.

Let me again come to schools. Now a days the horrible danger came in middle
class society --- English Convent School. everywhere we can see such schools
and teacher at such schools are paid just less then 1000 rs per month.
Atlest in our time when the text books was in hindi we can atleast
understand that what goes on the pages of books and what in written and
their meaning. My *bhanja (*sone on sister*) harshit *is 9 year old and he
is a part of good convent school. last month when i visited him, my sister
was forcing him to study and was trying the "rattafication" of some
sentences. Those sentence were marked by school teacher and paper will come
from these marked sentences. he was again and again repeating  - "earth
revolves arounds sun" but he do not know the actual meaning of that
sentences. It is not just a story of Harshit, this happens with all children
and other subjects.

The worst part i observed in students is they are lazy to correct the
system. Students are part of education, my dear if you blame and thing
something to be included then go ahead and try to make a change what you
like, last time i gave a example of LUG repo at IITD. We thought and we
worked and now everybody know what is 10,10.4.1/linux and
lug-iitd.orgarticles. If you think there is not a good library in ur
city at your time
of education then -- donate your books or after getting good salary donate
10,000 Rs to your village/city. 100 such donations can make a good library.
if you think u do not have good books then write it or give feedback to
publishers.
If you think u have solved some problem differently then just blog it or
share it in some electronic media. I have so many math/physics tricks in
mind but mostly they are waste because I cannot share it as i am no longer a
tutor now but still I try to write articles on my blogs--  for example , I
somehow know proof of mechanics equations in vector form, I have not found
these proof on Internet , so i just wrote them here --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Narendra_Sisodiya/mechanics If u see from
my point of view then  it is just a waste of time, Why should one waste time
to blog/share. The answer is , Think globaly. Think it as ecosystem. If
everybody share so learining will be more effective and fact.

I want to conclude that -- Do no just blame on teacher,,think there are zero
teacher in india.

first be good student and have studentship with education ethics in your
pocket. At the same time just do not pass from one class to other class *
somehow *without learning. or in other words, There is no place for
shortcuts in education system , you need to "love to learn".

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