something well said by Narendra Sisodiya Sir and I do agree with it.Thanks
for it.

With Regards,
Gaurav Paliwal

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 2:41 PM, narendra sisodiya <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 12:05 AM, Shakthi Kannan <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> --- On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 2:32 AM, amit kumar <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> | everybody does not have free internet .
>> \--
>>
>> plz revist the terms -- *viral ,globally shared and collaborative
> learning*. It is better if you have internet connectivity, but if you do
> not have internet connectivity the same thing can be done in group and
> shared way of learning. We started LUG workshop just to test how and upto
> what level we can collaborate and how we can more productive using this.
>
> If you say, you do not have good teacher,,, I should say *u are not a good
> student*. I expressed my primarily concerns on school children. The "base"
> of a school child is not well, If he/she need tuition's at 1st class then
> he/she will need forever. I am saying just study by yourself. I am saying,,
> do not depends on teacher. Depends on you and collaborative group study
> locally. Collaboration is one of primary ethics of study.
> We need to build up a strong base level foundation in students.
>
> after an unsuccessful attempt of IITJEE, I remembered in college days when
> I was in first year, I started teaching (as teacher) for 11th and 12th
> class. But every student in my district use to run away from first class of
> vector algebra. the guy who just passed 10th *somehow* do not know basic
> of algebra and equations, How can I teach such guys. In the whole district i
> was able to find just 2 guys who can study at the IITlevel under me. The
> most important thing we need to develop the ideals in the mind of student
> that they should learn first and give the exam, otherwise getting 35 and
> study ahead is just waste. a person who is weak in math at 10th will not be
> able to cover math in 11th and 12th. So we need to focus on learning rather
> then timely passing.
>
> When I learned height and distance in lower class, I tried to measure
> actual height of buildings. Do students have such practical thinking in his
> mind.? Do you need teacher to give u assignments and then u will think for
> practicles?
> You can make microscope in less then 20 RS and everything is in book. Have
> u tried ???
> you may surprised to know , once I rejected to give my exam paper in BE ,
> just because it was a important subject in GATE exam and I have not done its
> study well !  Will we ever be able to develops such ideal in little minds.
>
> Let me again come to schools. Now a days the horrible danger came in middle
> class society --- English Convent School. everywhere we can see such schools
> and teacher at such schools are paid just less then 1000 rs per month.
> Atlest in our time when the text books was in hindi we can atleast
> understand that what goes on the pages of books and what in written and
> their meaning. My *bhanja (*sone on sister*) harshit *is 9 year old and he
> is a part of good convent school. last month when i visited him, my sister
> was forcing him to study and was trying the "rattafication" of some
> sentences. Those sentence were marked by school teacher and paper will come
> from these marked sentences. he was again and again repeating  - "earth
> revolves arounds sun" but he do not know the actual meaning of that
> sentences. It is not just a story of Harshit, this happens with all children
> and other subjects.
>
> The worst part i observed in students is they are lazy to correct the
> system. Students are part of education, my dear if you blame and thing
> something to be included then go ahead and try to make a change what you
> like, last time i gave a example of LUG repo at IITD. We thought and we
> worked and now everybody know what is 10,10.4.1/linux and 
> lug-iitd.orgarticles. If you think there is not a good library in ur city at 
> your time
> of education then -- donate your books or after getting good salary donate
> 10,000 Rs to your village/city. 100 such donations can make a good library.
> if you think u do not have good books then write it or give feedback to
> publishers.
> If you think u have solved some problem differently then just blog it or
> share it in some electronic media. I have so many math/physics tricks in
> mind but mostly they are waste because I cannot share it as i am no longer a
> tutor now but still I try to write articles on my blogs--  for example , I
> somehow know proof of mechanics equations in vector form, I have not found
> these proof on Internet , so i just wrote them here --
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Narendra_Sisodiya/mechanics If u see
> from my point of view then  it is just a waste of time, Why should one waste
> time to blog/share. The answer is , Think globaly. Think it as ecosystem. If
> everybody share so learining will be more effective and fact.
>
> I want to conclude that -- Do no just blame on teacher,,think there are
> zero teacher in india.
>
> first be good student and have studentship with education ethics in your
> pocket. At the same time just do not pass from one class to other class *
> somehow *without learning. or in other words, There is no place for
> shortcuts in education system , you need to "love to learn".
>
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