On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Kinshuk Sunil <[email protected]>wrote:
> > > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Narendra Sisodiya < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Kinshuk Sunil <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Narendra Sisodiya >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Kinshuk Sunil <[email protected] >> > >> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Kalpana <[email protected]> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> I feel good regarding meeting. >> >> >> >> >> >> We should start to take up various aspect of FOSS in such type of >> >> >> meeting. >> >> >> 1 : At ground level >> >> >> 2 : At organization level >> >> >> 3 : At Technical level >> >> >> >> >> >> We has two presentation in this meeting One is on phython, One is on >> >> >> Debian. >> >> >> We all seen as technical person with our specs. That's natural, the >> >> >> next >> >> >> step to see at Application level with analysis , i.e. with reference >> to >> >> >> student, with reference to profession.....etc.. Make out the points >> >> >> very >> >> >> positively which have good out come. >> >> > >> >> > some things we should probably focus on: >> >> > * real life applications of open source tools and technologies; use >> >> > cases.. >> >> > * relevance of FOSS for the laymen (non-tech people) and enabling >> them >> >> > with >> >> > FOSS >> >> > * FOSS at policy level, eg: education >> >> > * indigenous FOSS projects >> >> > * hurdles in FOSS implementations and over-coming them. >> >> > these are some ideas, we should together think of some more. >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> ...... Guarav tried Koha with Debian and Piyush tried with cent OS. >> In >> >> >> spite of taking stand of our experience, here we should share the >> >> >> experience >> >> >> to be cooperative. >> >> > >> >> > Trust me, I am not holding out against individuals. I am willing to >> >> > collaborate with my blood and grit, if I can understand what to focus >> >> > on. I >> >> > am only asking hard questions, because I am seeking answers - to >> really >> >> > contribute and make a difference. >> >> >> >> Let me tell you again.. I wrote the term "discussion" a good number of >> >> times. >> >> nobody can decide,, community has to decide.. what can be done in "our >> >> community" meetup and how we can bring more and more >> >> collaboration/participation in So called "splitted FOSS community of >> >> NCR" >> >> >> > >> > Yes, i did read it when you published it. And I got that. >> > I think what we are having here is a discussion only. >> > So how do we take FOSS from a geek's level to the ground level, where it >> can >> > empower and enable the common man ? >> > Kalpana has a very valid poin there. >> +++++++++ >> See I see Crores of student in all over India, They all are going to >> learn some OS and computer software. >> I see a future and biggest impact if they all can use GNU/Linux, >> > > there is no use in fools/drones using FOSS. In every FOSS-related event, > when I stumble across students, I ask them why are you here? Why is FOSS > relevant to you? And they have no answer. Some want to understand how they > can make quick money with 'free as in free of cost software', some are there > completely clueless. Instead of spoon feeding them, I would rather make > efforts to enable those who ask questions and who can find answers to those > questions in contributing to FOSS. > > Simply installing GNU/Linux on every computer ever made is not the > solution. > > Did I ever said so ? Did any of the SchoolOS team member tried to do so ? > Second project I suggest is Spoken Tutorial. Govt has given 40 crore >> Rupees to promote FOSS using Video/ScreenCast. >> > > Who was the money given to ? What are they doing with it ? > I already wrote, Create tutorial and get money from IITB - visit - http://www.spoken-tutorial.org/ or drop a mail to Vivek or Atul or Kannan Sir. I went to many govt process and I see a good number of person who try to promote FOSS but FOSS community never help them. natioanal mission has 40 Crore Rupee for create a masstive video library on ALL the FOSS-EDU tools on ALL the IndicLanguage. If you cannot create video, Just help in translating videos. If you know industry expert then tell him that his weekend effort can change a lot. All he need to make a good video out of his experience.. Only bad thing I observed that this project produce NC-licensed video which reduce its propagation. Searfh google Why CC-NC is BAD. > > >> These are the two method which can bring change in India a lot and >> promote FOSS too. >> Luckly I am associated with both. >> > > And what has been the outcome ? > How to you define outcome ? I do not mainain and profit and LOSS statements of community activities. Will feel insult of myself if I answer this "rotted" question. > >> >> ++++++++ >> >> >> >> Our FOSS concept is depend up already developed thing. We should >> thing >> >> >> little be creative without professional aspect. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 12/27/2010 06:55 PM, Abhishek Nandakumar wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> To tone down tempers a bit and to reduce the number of emails I'm >> >> >> getting >> >> >> about what's essentially a non-issue let me point out that >> yesterday's >> >> >> event >> >> >> was great. Unfortunately though we were still promoting ideologies >> that >> >> >> most >> >> >> of us present there were already pretty aware of. The problem is of >> >> >> course >> >> >> that since all of us are beyond that stage and have already decided >> >> >> what is >> >> >> good or bad for us, at the end of the day we lacked a sense of >> >> >> achievement >> >> >> because what we did was no different from what we do in front of >> people >> >> >> who >> >> >> are unaware about FOSS. >> >> >> >> >> >> I believe these meetups are good but they need not have a single >> >> >> direction. A set of people could decide to do one thing, another can >> >> >> decide >> >> >> to do another. Each group of people may simultaneously work on >> >> >> different >> >> >> things and that could still be called a successful meetup. The aim >> is >> >> >> to get >> >> >> work done. >> >> >> >> >> >> When you say we're the people who need to organise an event of the >> >> >> scale >> >> >> of FOSS.IN/Freed.in, you're right. But then we don't want that to >> >> >> simply be >> >> >> just another random FOSS event where the same things are discussed >> for >> >> >> years >> >> >> together. FOSS goes beyond the small problems that a person would >> >> >> discuss in >> >> >> something like a workshop introducing Linux to people. We're all >> beyond >> >> >> that >> >> >> stage. And we probably need someone to remind us. >> > -- ┌─────────────────────────┐ │ Narendra Sisodiya │ http://narendrasisodiya.com └─────────────────────────┘ -- l...@iitd - http://tinyurl.com/ycueutm
