On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 23:58 +0530, peekay wrote:From: "Ashwin Mansinghka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 2. This Broadband is Asymetric i.e. the upload speed or website > hosting,
VPN
> tunneling etc. would be a bad choice on such ADSL options.
good info .. keep sending updated insights .. helps a lot
Hosting websites/ftpsites, or any sort of servers on ADSL lines is probably forbidden. Oh, and probably the same applies for DIAS as well. Besides, since the IP addresses are NATted, unless you use a service like dyndns, you cannot have the permanent IP required to run webservers, etc.
There is nothing called forbidden, especially in this world of communications and networking. People ignorant of this fact will anyway do peer to peer networking and file transfer on two ADSL ends. DLINK routers with ADSL support lets you do a lot of these funny things.
The present flavour of DIAS (Basic Rate DSL) is Symetric and people do use it for all website hosting etc. Static IP addresses are given to users by BSNL on payment basis, in case you ask for. BSNL as an ISP - Class A has to provide (by law) and does provide Global IPs only to all its INTERNET users be it on Analog Modem Dialup, ISDN Dialup, Leased line, DIAS or Broadband. There is absolutely no NAT.
My own mail server (complete sendmail etc.) i.e. my above id is on a DIAS link and I do not have a permanent global IP.
> 3. Presently the DIAS is numbering around a 4000+ with lines to spare > in
lot
> of areas. So I believe, there will be no rush.
i would tend to think that dias slowdown was a result of bsnl's broadband
annoucement .. faster, cheaper .. if they come out with their cell-One based
'faster' connectivity (even if a bit more costly than landline based
broadband) .. then broadband population will again be stagnent .. MOST
people use interneting for email (web based) .. or a bit of surfing .. even
dias is good enough for that
Let them sort out the congestion related issues first, for their voice network itself.
CellOne based "faster connectivity" ?? Please elaborate !! CellOne is GSM/GPRS/EDGE , which has probably the lowest data transfer rates among the most commonly used wireless networking protocols. Would be interesting to see how BSNL's pilot project for WiMax performs.
"Lowest" is very subjective, please elaborate further.
WiMax !! Where is this site ? Is there any actual site (working site) ? Or is it just on paper again, that we are discussing here ?
> 4. The equipment is from UT Starcom, which has a reputation for > offering
> very unstable products.
yipes !
Hey ! That's FUD !! BSNL a/c free internets handle quite a large number of users without major problems. And yesterday Prometric rated my dialup at 186 Kbps. :)
This is amusing. I choose to ignore the remark.
Further I choose to remain silent till someone with some knowledge in "Modulation Techniques" can step forward to enlighten us about 33.6 / 56 kbps speeds (Modulation - Demodulation Techniques - MODEM).
And then technically specify, if 186 Kbps (capital K stands for Kilobytes - i.e. for kilobits this becomes 186*8 kbps) as experienced by our friend here, is possible in what probability (I am willing to take the data from the person who explains and work on all Permutations and Combinations and post the results on the list).
My small experience in communications tells me UT Starcom products are highly unreliable, and I will continue to live with it. Moreover the present RAS of dialup users (172233 and 172222) is definitely not from UT Starcom.
With the storm of technology in a very short time and availability of cheap bandwidth we feel everything is going fine and the next thing will be even better.
As users / consumers we need to be aware of what is being offered to us and whether it is worth paying for (especially for persons like me who pay for their complete Internet hours from their own pocket) whether by an individual or an institute and organisation.
with Regards,
ASHWIN
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