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It's good to see that there is an objective discussion on in this thread=20 (rather than impassioned calls for the listadmin's head on a platter). I=20 would suggest that we take a few steps to revive this group. But first, my experiences: I joined Ilug-Cal 5 months back. Since then there has been *1*= ,=20 single meeting. And that meeting had all of 6 attendees. Now, in a list of= =20 1500+ members, that is well below the expected attendance. So what do we do: a)Regular monthly meetings. Should be tied to the first Sunday of every=20 month or some such thing. Meetings should have an agenda, and meeting notes= =20 must be taken and posted. There should also be a "zero-hour" in the meeting= s=20 (Even our Members of Parliament need their moments of fun :-) ) b)Being listadmin is a full time job, so some volunteers are needed to take= =20 up other activites, the most important of which is to maintain the group's= =20 web site. This could be a point for discussion in the next meeting. c)There should be an "administration" list where all administrative issues= =20 for Ilug-Cal can be discussed rather than discussing these issues on the=20 Linux discussion list. I hope the list members are ready to come together to make this group more= =20 effective. Thanks, Prashant Verma On 9/8/05, Sharninder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >=20 >=20 > > > > I always had an inkling that the iLUG-Cal list was > > slowly becoming an > > *Us-Them* forum. There is a curious pattern here - > > > > [1] Someone posts a mail overlooking basic mailing > > list norms (the > > ListAdmin might take this as a learning to ensure > > that the FAQ is > > force-fed to all month after month) > > > > [2] ListAdmin reacts with a warning of the > > consequences > > > > [3] PK immediately flamebaits with the state of > > affairs > > > > [4] ListAdmin reacts > > > > [5] Original Poster reacts > > > > [6] PK reacts > > > > [7] I have a lot of SPAM to clean > > > > Frankly I am disgusted with this. On an hypothesis, > > if I agree with the > > generally promoted view that Indranil has been > > ham-handed in handling > > iLUG-Cal, I do not see anyone else willing to step > > up and clean up the > > stables. And from a distance this looks pathetic and > > silly. There is a > > small way of resolving this issue - *Stand up and Be > > Counted* or else > > don't block the hallway. > > > > A LUG survives on meeting regularly and > > posting/updating the site. In > > both cases, ListAdmin presence is not required - so > > what is stopping the > > others from taking up the challenge ? > > > > It is disgusting to think that such mails are > > regularly publicly > > archived on Gmane. > > > > Shame on us. > > >=20 > Exactly my sentiments .. Well Said Sankar. >=20 > I hope this debate is the last nail in the coffin and > makes the ilug-cal members sit up and do something > about all the problems that ilug-cal has been facing > and holding meetings regularly will solve half of the > problems, I believe. >=20 >=20 > -- > Sharninder >=20 >=20 > http://sharninder.blogspot.com >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >=20 > -- > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body > "unsubscribe ilug-cal" and an empty subject line. > FAQ: http://www.ilug-cal.org/node.php?id=3D3 -- To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body "unsubscribe ilug-cal" and an empty subject line. FAQ: http://www.ilug-cal.org/node.php?id=3
