On Friday 13 Nov 2009 1:30:57 pm steve wrote:
> > I demonstrated this problem at Gnunify - and a few RedHat heavyweights
> > tried to solve it. They could not.
> 
> Well, firstly, not everyone in Red Hat (btw, that's the name -- it is 2
>  words),  knows everything about every tool, even the heavyweights and if
>  they did claim to know a lot about NetworkManager but could not fix the
>  issue, it strongly indicates a bug (since the general populace do not have
>  ready access to Red Hat heavyweights who could suggest workarounds as you
>  possibly do :) ).

I had my laptop connected to a projector, so everyone in the room could see 
the problem, so the dug up an expert on NetworkManager (Pune is their base), 
and he could not suggest anything.
> 
> So, like I mentioned maybe you should report it, but before that ...

I told them, they said they would revert - they did not
> 
> >>  a. What sort of connection do you have to do this for ?
> >
> > all connections - both usb and ethernet. For the usb modem, the gateway
> > is hard coded so that works.
> 
> What do you mean by hard coded ? Did you add it to the routes in the GUI
>  tool  (ie: nm-applet->right click->edit connections->select
>  connection->edit->ipv4 settings->route) ?

no - I did not
> 
> I ask because if that is not the way you did it, I suspect the system will
>  try  to apply this 'hardcoded' route to every connection.

that is why I did not
> 
> >>  b. What tool do you use to make the connection, NetworkManager/wvdial ?
> >
> > network manager/wvdial for usb and network manager for ethernet
> 
> ok.
> 
> >>  c. Do you have any other connections active ?[1]
> >
> > the problem arises when I switch my laptop from one ethernet to another
> > (home to office, or some else's lan during a talk). Also when rebooting
> 
> Again, this also indicates that the default gateway is being 'set' or
>  'reset'  from someplace outside of NM (and when it fails -- which it would
>  if the gateways doesn't belong to the network you are setting it for --
>  you end up with an empty default gateway).

default gateway is not being set.
> 
> >>  d. Could you please paste the output of 'route -n', before and after
> >>   you've  changed the default route ?
> >
> > [r...@xlquest lawgon]# route
> > Kernel IP routing table
> > Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use
> > Iface
> > 192.168.2.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0
> > eth0
> > link-local      *               255.255.0.0     U     1002   0        0
> > eth0 default         firewall.lan.au
> > 0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0
> >
> > this is after changing the default - before changing the last line is
> > missing, or set to the previous gateway. I almost never shutdown the
> > laptop.
> 
> could you paste the contents of your /etc/sysconfig/network ?
> 

here it is:
NETWORKING=yes
HOSTNAME=xlquest.web


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