On Wed, Oct 01 2008, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
> Manoj has a point in Ubuntu having problems fixing patches upstream. It > might be true, but certainly not intentional. Ubuntu's benevolent > dictator - Mark talks about Ubuntu's perspective of the problem here: > http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/145 . You can certainly make > out that he also agrees with the basic premise that changes should go > upstream. But he also mentions atleast one aspect of the problem Ubuntu > faces: > The numbers are clear. Especially for a distro which has made itself a > mission of releasing every six months, handling an order of magnitude > more bugs than other projects is certainly an issue. It is no excuse > for not sending patches upstream, but people in this thread have > oversimplified the process of actually sending patches upstream. Mark > talks about it a bit in that post (read, ensuring that fixes get made > upstream in the required time needs more than technical skills ;) ). A) How many bugs were actually handled, as opposed to filed? B) Filing the bugs and patches does not need more than just technical skills and the ability to send email. Frankly, for a dostro that handles a fraction of the packages that Debian does, for about one tenth f the architectures that Debian supports, and who has a corporate sponsor, unlike Debian, this whole bit of oooh, oooh, we can't possibly send mail to the Debian BTS sounds like excuses. > But, again, bitching to the world about how Ubuntu has been *leeching* > from Debian does certainly not help their case ( or Ubuntu's). For two As far as I can see, keeping mum about the issue does not help Debian either. > distributions which share so much and have quite a bit of overlap in > goals, it certainly is not an effective way of co-operation in fixing > this issue. I actually makes me suspect if the Debian folks are > interested in a solution at all. It seems more like they are quite ok > with Ubuntu not being there at all, regardless of whether Ubuntu has > made any difference to the FOSS world. Sad, really, for a distro > having such lofty goals. You are right. Ubuntu has not made my task easuier, or made the lives of my users any easier. If anything, they are an obstacle int he way of people using my code to communicate issues they find in my code from getting to me, which is irksome. Since I do nto do free software for altruistic reasons, I do not see the benefit really of getting more unwashed masses into Linux. Really I don't. They do not seem to be lifting the forks to feed the rest of us. manoj -- panic: kernel segmentation violation. core dumped (only kidding) Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.golden-gryphon.com/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C _______________________________________________ ilugd mailinglist -- [email protected] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/
