On 11/9/05, Mike Biddle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think there is some confusion about the product. For those not aware,
> there are companies that provide manual spam filtering and we all understand
> anti virus. Obviously it costs money to license that stuff. I am not aware
> of anything that you can get 1 out of 100,000 false positives with nearly no
> spam that is free. The blacklists don't work that well and are getting
> weaker and weaker as time goes on.

I agree in some respects.  As a former Declude user I found that very
effective tool required more and more of my time, administratively, to
the point that I wound up blowing an hour or so per day tweaking the
thing.

The solution I found -- and I am a general-ISP in the sense that I
serve all sorts of customers -- was to implement a well thought-out
Bayesian filtering system.  One that included an automatic
whitelisting feature that builds itself (althought I also built in a
manual whitelister my clients could use... and hardly ever do).

The thing also supports blacklists, but the only one I use is the one
William Van Hefner -- from this list -- posts.  I could do without it
but I found it to be reliable.

As for 1 out of 100k FP's, I never, ever get customer calls about
missing mail anymore.  And believe me, they aren't shy about that.

Bayesian filtering isn't for everyone.  You have to live with a few
weeks of hell before the system runs on autopilot -- but for this one
(free) tool, it does so permanently once trained.

It absolutely amazes me why neither the people at Ipswitch or
Smartertools look at ASSP's feature set and copy at least part of it. 
The auto-whitelisting alone (anyone you send auth'd mail to gets added
to the whitelist, among other things)  is a giant benefit to any
antispam system.

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--mattRobertson--
Janitor, MSB Web Systems
mysecretbase.com

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