RE: [IMail Forum] Upcoming Pricing.

[Grant Griffith - IMail]

OK, Guess I will take some flake, but while I hate to see price increases, I do not see where paying $995/yr for an unlimited Standalone Imail SA is that much?  No, I have not looked into Smartermail as we have around 300 domain and over 5000 email accounts running on our Imail server and I am not looking to change things at this point.  If the web interface is what it is cracked up to be, that price does not bother me too much.  We have a Barracuda Firewall sitting in front of our Imail box, so it takes care of most of the spam and virus issues, but we also have Declude running to double check for any missed viruses.  We are pleased with our system and how it is functioning.   Thanks, Grant Griffith EI8HTLEGS, A Division of ETC (812)932-1000 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matrosity Hosting Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 2:16 PM To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Upcoming Pricing.   That would pretty much clinch Imail server as being extortionware in my book. There's simply no reason in my mind that we should be pay another 50% increase for an SA two years in a row. I think I'll look into investing in Smartertools as they're about to get another big boost in revenue. John T (Lists) wrote: To be honest, Kevin did mention what the prices would be close to, however I was in my car driving home after being at a client for 6 hours and I was tired and hungry, so I do not remember what numbers he said, but I will say that either the 1000 user SA or unlimited user SA will have a MSRP of about $995.   John T eServices For You     -----Original Message-----From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum-[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don BrownSent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:10 AMTo: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.comSubject: Re: [IMail Forum] Upcoming Pricing. Decisions are best based upon facts as opposed speculation. Why the mystery about the new cost of SA? Why can't IPSwitch beupfront, rather than sell the idea of buying an SA at the prevailingcost?  Wednesday, November 9, 2005, 6:35:28 PM, John T (Lists)<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:JTL> Responding to several posts and further information. What I am going    to post  JTL> is my thoughts/opinions/knowledge based on what I have read, those I    have  JTL> talked to now and in the past, reading between the lines, and my gutJTL> feelings. And believe me, my gut is way too big. JTL> First of all, we all know and understand that Ipswitch really took a    turn  JTL> for the worse around 3rd quarter of 2004. (It may have even been a    little  JTL> earlier.) Just prior to that our beloved John Korsak left to pursue    other  JTL> interests. With that, a new management team was in place at Ipswitch.    Part  JTL> of the management was Jill Jones. My conversations with her at the    time of  JTL> ICS introduction left me with a bad taste, albeit one I was able to    accept  JTL> under my circumstances. That new management team basically turned a    deaf  earJTL> to the needs of many us, being ISPs and small to large hosting    providers.  JTL> Well, it appears that Jill Jones is either no longer with Ipswitch or    has  JTL> been reassigned to a lesser role and Kevin Gillis is now in charge or    major   JTL> part of Product Management. I am not sure what his exact title is. JTL> The gist of this is that Ipswitch decided in the second half of 2004    that  JTL> they wanted to pursue a different cliental, underestimating the value    of  JTL> their current client base at that time. In doing so, they alienated    many of  JTL> us, and lost a lot of business which was not recovered in their new    focus  JTL> like they thought it would. Now they have a new/revamped management    team  inJTL> place and have realized the harm that was done and are making    progress  JTL> towards resolving that. Are they going to win back everyone who left,    no.  JTL> Are they going to please everyone, no. But they are trying, and they    are  JTL> listening. JTL> It appears that they are now going to offer Imail in 3 forms:    Standalone,  JTL> Secure server, and a complete Suite. Each will be offered in 5 levels    based  JTL> on users: 25, 100, 250, 1000 and unlimited. Personally, I would have    like to  JTL> seen 100, 250, 1000, 5000 and unlimited. Although I do not know what    exactly  JTL> the new prices will be for standalone, from what Kevin told me on the    phone  JTL> while I was driving home I for the most part accept as sensible what    the  JTL> pricing will be except like I said I feel drop the 25 and add 5000. JTL> So what does my rambling mean? JTL> If you have Imail standalone with/with out a current SA I recommend    the  JTL> following:JTL> If you have under 100 users, wait for the new SA pricing.JTL> If you have over 1000 users, purchase a Imail Professional SA now.JTL> If you are between those amounts, you could save some money or spend    a  JTL> little more money if you buy a SA right now. JTL> It also means I will continue to use Imail and offer my    support/assistance  JTL> to others when I can, continue to offer Imail support services to    clients  JTL> and once again offer Imail as a possible solution for clients. JTL> John TJTL> eServices For You   JTL> To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.htmlJTL> List Archive:JTL> http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/JTL> Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/   ----Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA     Internet Concepts, Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED]       http://www.inetconcepts.net(972) 788-2364                    Fax: (972) 788-5049----  To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.htmlList Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/      To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.htmlList Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/